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02-15-2023, 10:34 PM

#171

Lewbronski

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Originally Posted by man2112

Southwest career website states that they will not count helicopter time towards total time, other airlines count it toward total time. Those of us with MIL R-ATP can meet all of the FAA ATP mins easily, but if southwest doesn’t count the time then we can’t.

Maybe take it as a sign from God or the universe or the flying spaghetti monster or whatever you recognize as your particular higher power is lovingly guiding you in another direction.

02-16-2023, 12:37 AM

#172

at6d

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I thought they removed the flingwing limit?

As for decision making experience…do they count it as a good choice to be a helo guy or a bad choice? Asking for a friend.

02-16-2023, 01:12 AM

#173

man2112

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Originally Posted by at6d

I thought they removed the flingwing limit?

As for decision making experience…do they count it as a good choice to be a helo guy or a bad choice? Asking for a friend.

Flying helicopters is the funnest flying you can do without going inverted, but my god is it hard on your body. And aside from the military, the pay is ****.

02-16-2023, 01:52 AM

#174

Grumpyaviator

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Originally Posted by man2112

Yet they still won't count ANY helicopter time towards total time. They'd get a lot more of us MIL R-ATP guys if they did.

My recommendation is to go to a regional first. They have the training footprint, experience and patience to make it a smoother transition. When you’re comfortable in 121 ops you can move quickly to a major.

02-16-2023, 05:03 AM

#175

Proximity

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Quote:

Originally Posted by man2112

Southwest does not accept ANY R-ATP. There is no bias there against heli pilots, you must have unrestricted ATP.

There are some "preferred" minimums that heli time won't help you met, but if you have an unrestricted ATP you meet the mins to apply.

Other poster here hit the nail on the head. Just apply everywhere, get hired somewhere, then keep applying at anywhere better until you get where you want to be.

02-16-2023, 06:33 AM

#176

bobble

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Quote:

Originally Posted by at6d

I thought they removed the flingwing limit?

As for decision making experience…do they count it as a good choice to be a helo guy or a bad choice? Asking for a friend.

they only removed the restriction from powered lift, aka Osprey pilots.

and I didn’t choose the rotor life, it chose me (more due to my bad scores in flightschool than anything).

to my fellow helo guy, no big boy airline accepts RATP— they all say unrestricted ATP in their mins. And if you meet the minimums here, they’ll hire you. I got hired a year ago at barely 1000 turbine fw.

02-17-2023, 06:45 PM

#177

loveislost7M8

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LUV Stock performance since Bob Jordan Aka "No Sho BoJo" took over as CEO.

We are F%#&ed!

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02-17-2023, 06:59 PM

#178

Hobbit64

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Originally Posted by loveislost7M8

LUV Stock performance since Bob Jordan Aka "No Sho BoJo" took over as CEO.

We are F%#&ed!

clearly, your graph is directly a result of pilots not picking up open time (on flippin Christmas Day), high sick calls, fatigue calls, unreasonable contract asks… but definitely NOT a result of upper level management
did I miss any other reasons that the company gives when stuff is wrong and it’s only one groups fault?
ya know, tribalism

02-17-2023, 10:25 PM

#179

symbian simian

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Originally Posted by Liberty

If you’ve got to count helicopter time in order to come up with 1500 hours to get a job at a major airline, 🤦‍♂️

So you say it is not okay you to count the time you flew with NVGs, for the military in a 22K Lbs multi turbine twin, requiring 2 pilots, but if you buy a 152, and fly it around the pattern while stoned or drunk for 1500hrs, that is A-okay.

02-18-2023, 04:43 AM

#180

DryClutch

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty

If you’ve got to count helicopter time in order to come up with 1500 hours to get a job at a major airline, 🤦‍♂️

Quote:

Originally Posted by symbian simian

Symbian flip it around though, what if you rolled up to get a real good helo job with hardly any helo time? You'd get laughed away, and rightfully so.