Mozam

I absolutely agree. I did not mean to offend the ones that bend over backwards for WN and the customers . If it was the Olympics, I would say we have the best flight attendants in the industry. Our Best FAs would win the gold in every event . That said, we have more than a few bad apples, most of our cart is rotten.

ElonMusk

Your anger is misplaced.

They have been without a contract since 2019, they should follow the contract to a T. You complain about the FA management coming after pilots, have you seen what they do to their own? Screw that. If I was them I wouldn’t do one thing outside of the contract.

Think about this BTW. They are over a contract cycle behind. 2019 was the amendable date, they are due up in 2023 yet 2019 hasn’t been done. The moving cargo is collateral damage that are in the way because of Bob and his merry men.

I sit on my phone in the cockpit between flights. I don’t help anyone nor do I care to help anyone. I don’t judge others for doing the same. This is what Dallas wants. They want complete 100 percent control of the operation. Let them have it and see what happens.

We sat waiting for a pushback crew in LAS the other night. For 42 minutes. We made 2 calls to ops and 2 ACARS to DAL and just sat. It is not our job to fix the issue. Had a guy waiting for our gate for the last 20 minutes. When pushback crew showed up said he was unaware a plane was at our gate. We just laughed…

STOP doing everyone’s else’s job. STOP criticizing other work groups. Just STOP! Your job is clearly laid out in the FOM, fly the plane.

Liberty

Our FA troubles have nothing to do with a contract. It has everything to do with corporate hiring priorities. We search the globe for the worst people. The ones that are excellent are truly excellent but I think they are the few and not the norm. Covid exposed the management’s complete loss of control of inflight. I, personally, want nothing to do with the flight attendants outside of professional requirements. I’ll never understand how the excellent ones continue in that work group. I’m glad they do though…

hoover

they are doing more ghost riding. The stus I worked with the other day were talking about it and worried theyd get in trouble if they didnt serve.
so hopefully something is changing

Mozam

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I am truly embarrassed anymore to say I work at this place.. I do not want to go to the same hotel as them. When their leader is encouraging them to write up pilots, it is time for SWAPA to put its foot down. I understand I have to work with them, I sure do not want to see or be around them after hours .

Boredflyguy

Hey all, just wanted to add my 2 cents. I am one of those that has quit in their first year to redder pastures. Unfortunately, a lot of stuff in this thread really resonated with me. When I came to WN, I bought into the whole culture thing, and thought it was going to be different. Obviously, it wasn't. If you're thinking about making the jump, do it and don't wait. (almost) all of the pilots I flew with were awesome, really a good work group. Wish yall nothing but the best, but tbh, it felt great turning in all my stuff.

ElonMusk

Had senior FA crew the other day. 2 40 year vets. They were completely unmotivated because of the crappy TA they got. They sat most of the flight as it was bumpy. Who are we to complain…..they are present for safety only per the regulations. The flat coke and stale pretzels are just the icing on the cake. I’m sure the beef would rather have a wifi that works and power outlets than a drink.

This is a Dallas issue and not an FA issue on the whole. EVERYTHING that has been stated on this many other threads are all Dallas issues. Let them run this place into the ground anyway they want, tough love is needed if you ever want to have autonomy back in flight ops.

Lake Chuck

Update new departure time in ACARS. It updates within seconds. That way you make the decision easy for the FAs.

WHACKMASTER

My word. Everyone needs to drill this into their heads. We wouldn’t be 3+ years past the amendable date if everyone just used the smallest amount of common sense.

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Mozam

That is awesome advice, I heard someone else say that and now it is what I do

I just fly the jets