1,221 Reasons Not to work for Southwest
11-20-2023, 10:33 AM
#1723
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2022
Posts: 195
It’s getting close because the emails for the company about weekly negotiations is getting shorter and more direct. They still are far off on certain things though but don’t worry OT is still being picked up at record rates, I’m sure a deal will be imminent….(sarcasm off)
11-20-2023, 11:30 AM
#1725
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,153
It’s getting close because the emails for the company about weekly negotiations is getting shorter and more direct. They still
are far off on certain things though but don’t worry OT is still being picked up at record rates, I’m sure a deal will be imminent….(sarcasm off)
are far off on certain things though but don’t worry OT is still being picked up at record rates, I’m sure a deal will be imminent….(sarcasm off)
yeah, but their is a difference between a 'final' offer from the company and actually getting a deal done.
SWA has turned down the rhetoric AND deployed yessies to the forums, so something is definitely coming.
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11-20-2023, 11:36 AM
#1726
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,153
They looked puzzled for a bit...... then, when I told them we didn't even have company paid LTD or paid parking or crew meals they were flat out SHOCKED!
After a bit of stunned silence on their part, they just said..... "so it might be awhile"?
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11-20-2023, 11:53 AM
#1727
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,030
People twist what he actually said into something that serves their narrative. A sticker doesn't make it so (lots of examples of that in the world). The only people that have referred to our Pilots as plumbers are our own Pilots.
GK was asked about market rates. He replied (I am paraphrasing since I didn't see any need to write it down) "...market rate are a fact of life. You wouldn't pay a plumber the same as your lawn guy. You would pay the market rate for a plumber." Perhaps not the best way to answer the question, but a long way from calling us plumbers. I do not believe Herb ever acknowledged that SWA Pilot pay should consider the market rates of our competitors.
I m not sure how a post count lends any credibility.
I have no idea what you mean by "washing" my account.
GK was asked about market rates. He replied (I am paraphrasing since I didn't see any need to write it down) "...market rate are a fact of life. You wouldn't pay a plumber the same as your lawn guy. You would pay the market rate for a plumber." Perhaps not the best way to answer the question, but a long way from calling us plumbers. I do not believe Herb ever acknowledged that SWA Pilot pay should consider the market rates of our competitors.
I m not sure how a post count lends any credibility.
I have no idea what you mean by "washing" my account.
11-20-2023, 01:45 PM
#1728
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,771
Yeah, I stumbled in to an impromptu meeting of United pilots when their TA was published. They were discussing it and asked me what we were going for and how long would it take. I just responded that we had a wide chasm to cross to get to "industry standard".
They looked puzzled for a bit...... then, when I told them we didn't even have company paid LTD or paid parking or crew meals they were flat out SHOCKED!
After a bit of stunned silence on their part, they just said..... "so it might be awhile"?
.
They looked puzzled for a bit...... then, when I told them we didn't even have company paid LTD or paid parking or crew meals they were flat out SHOCKED!
After a bit of stunned silence on their part, they just said..... "so it might be awhile"?
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11-20-2023, 02:11 PM
#1730
New Hire
Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 9
I speak for myself and I am not being critical of anyone, simply stating the truth. We shouldn't make decisions based upon inaccurate information.
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