1,221 Reasons Not to work for Southwest
#1492
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Gentlemen, gentlemen! Can we please get back to discussing the merits of the Mazda Miata or at the very least, effective Delta Airlines trolling techniques on guard? I beseech you.
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#1493
#1494
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I don't see this as a concession. I see this as enabling growth-limited/constrained bases being allowed to grow and people in those bases getting to enjoy the growth of their seniority. The increased flying out of proposed co-terminals (DFW, IAH, ORD) is gonna happen, PERIOD. The question is only which base(s) get to cover it, which base(s) get the seniority movement, and which base(s) stagnate because they're growth limited and cannot accept more pairings or people.
Naturally, if you're based at a non-co-terminal base, you don't want co-terminals because stagnating other domiciles means artificially inflating your base seniority because you'll still have to cover more IAH, ORD and DFW originators and terminators, especially if more growth goes there. That means if you live in a proposed co-terminal, you'll spend longer time on reserve, it means if you want to upgrade, you'll have to commute or wait it out quite a bit longer than elsewhere, bidding for vacation at reduced seniority, etc. In other words, you're trying to stagnate 3 of our bases for your goal and you mask it by using an emotionally charged word "concession."
I'm more in favor of balanced growth across all the bases, not just selected ones.
Amazingly, you seem to love using the phrase "industry-standard" or "industry-leading..." And my actions vs. my words? Funny... come back with an intelligent answer and we can have a debate. Running around in circles with ears plugged, eyes closed, and shouting "concession, concession" isn't an argument, let alone an intelligent one.
Naturally, if you're based at a non-co-terminal base, you don't want co-terminals because stagnating other domiciles means artificially inflating your base seniority because you'll still have to cover more IAH, ORD and DFW originators and terminators, especially if more growth goes there. That means if you live in a proposed co-terminal, you'll spend longer time on reserve, it means if you want to upgrade, you'll have to commute or wait it out quite a bit longer than elsewhere, bidding for vacation at reduced seniority, etc. In other words, you're trying to stagnate 3 of our bases for your goal and you mask it by using an emotionally charged word "concession."
I'm more in favor of balanced growth across all the bases, not just selected ones.
Amazingly, you seem to love using the phrase "industry-standard" or "industry-leading..." And my actions vs. my words? Funny... come back with an intelligent answer and we can have a debate. Running around in circles with ears plugged, eyes closed, and shouting "concession, concession" isn't an argument, let alone an intelligent one.
Thanks for proving my point for me!
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