1,221 Reasons Not to work for Southwest
10-08-2023, 03:29 AM
#1432
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2 execs looking to high five and swap spots.
SWAPA to SWA revolving door wide open with 4 former SWAPA on the other side of negotiations table.
Last minute non polled Co terminal concession.
Online social media roadshow in progress by execs.
Polled items such as hotels, JA, sick bank, are already receiving the expectation management comms treatment.
The same people that brought you TA2 Platform minus 1.3B are in charge of bringing you what's in progress.
Where your trip starts and ends, and covering two airports...if you think thats sprinkles....and all the facets of the contract that touches...wow. Just think of the future precedents that'll be set and the grievances involved regarding trans, hotels, line quality, reroute, parking, reserve etc.
Sprinkles ....yikes.
Negotiation Fatigue is real, dont ket your own foolish pride get in the way of recognizing it with yourself or your Union.
SWAPA to SWA revolving door wide open with 4 former SWAPA on the other side of negotiations table.
Last minute non polled Co terminal concession.
Online social media roadshow in progress by execs.
Polled items such as hotels, JA, sick bank, are already receiving the expectation management comms treatment.
The same people that brought you TA2 Platform minus 1.3B are in charge of bringing you what's in progress.
Where your trip starts and ends, and covering two airports...if you think thats sprinkles....and all the facets of the contract that touches...wow. Just think of the future precedents that'll be set and the grievances involved regarding trans, hotels, line quality, reroute, parking, reserve etc.
Sprinkles ....yikes.
Negotiation Fatigue is real, dont ket your own foolish pride get in the way of recognizing it with yourself or your Union.
Yep…. some people are rushing over that line to help the company out
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10-12-2023, 03:37 AM
#1433
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Southwest Airlines’ Pilots Have Had Enough. Should Shareholders Take Another Look?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joemogl...h=3ca28d349f37
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joemogl...h=3ca28d349f37
10-12-2023, 08:14 AM
#1434
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We don’t have co-terminals, and won’t unless it’s included in a new cba. Since we don’t have a TA to vote on, or any language to look at to see how it would/wouldn’t work…nobody can answer your ?
10-13-2023, 07:56 AM
#1435
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Hot off the press, more reasons to NOT work for SWA!
Southwest Airlines fined $300K in labor fines in Arizona
Employees say they got warnings for taking their earned sick time
https://www.abc15.com/news/state/sou...ELAM_9pZ8t6Pkg
Southwest Airlines fined $300K in labor fines in Arizona
Employees say they got warnings for taking their earned sick time
https://www.abc15.com/news/state/sou...ELAM_9pZ8t6Pkg
10-13-2023, 08:37 AM
#1436
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: cpt 737
Posts: 2,832
Hot off the press, more reasons to NOT work for SWA!
Southwest Airlines fined $300K in labor fines in Arizona
Employees say they got warnings for taking their earned sick time
https://www.abc15.com/news/state/sou...ELAM_9pZ8t6Pkg
Southwest Airlines fined $300K in labor fines in Arizona
Employees say they got warnings for taking their earned sick time
https://www.abc15.com/news/state/sou...ELAM_9pZ8t6Pkg
10-15-2023, 04:53 AM
#1437
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Posts: 1,189
I posted this elsewhere;
Now we know the real reason why the company (ie FH) dropped the co-domicile proposal on the table, and it’s working. The proposed locations aren’t really even that usable for this by the company when compared to socal, FL and the DC area. They aren’t serious about co-domiciles but threw a curveball, and swapa (me too) swung and missed.
Chess v Checkers
The union now needs to Un-AIP it and put a poll out to the pilot group, which is what they should’ve done in the beginning.
My vote is NO and I’m already looking forward to TA2.
Now we know the real reason why the company (ie FH) dropped the co-domicile proposal on the table, and it’s working. The proposed locations aren’t really even that usable for this by the company when compared to socal, FL and the DC area. They aren’t serious about co-domiciles but threw a curveball, and swapa (me too) swung and missed.
Chess v Checkers
The union now needs to Un-AIP it and put a poll out to the pilot group, which is what they should’ve done in the beginning.
My vote is NO and I’m already looking forward to TA2.
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10-15-2023, 08:14 AM
#1438
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Posts: 3,356
Yeah, this. SMH at those who will vote NO over not keeping a cadillac sick bank while also demanding a cadillac STD/LTD plan. This is one of those you should not have both ways. The company should offer some sort of % buyback to the currently accrued sick hours each pilot has over X hours. There is absolutely no need to have 1600 hrs of sick bank when STD/LTD would kick in after X weeks.
10-15-2023, 08:37 AM
#1440
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wow
There is no sane reason to have more than needed to cover the elimination period to LTD, unless you are planning to use it all right before retirement. But my gut tells me some of those clowns take pride in the fact that they will p!$$ away 1600 hours of pay for Kulture. Mine is paid out at up to 100% provided you stay long enough and retire old enough (up to 700 hours, 25 YoS, retire at 65. I'll get 75% if I stay till 65 because I won't hit 25 YoS, 50% if I walk before 65). And I still don't have more than 200ish in the bank....
There is no sane reason to have more than needed to cover the elimination period to LTD, unless you are planning to use it all right before retirement. But my gut tells me some of those clowns take pride in the fact that they will p!$$ away 1600 hours of pay for Kulture. Mine is paid out at up to 100% provided you stay long enough and retire old enough (up to 700 hours, 25 YoS, retire at 65. I'll get 75% if I stay till 65 because I won't hit 25 YoS, 50% if I walk before 65). And I still don't have more than 200ish in the bank....
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