1,221 Reasons Not to work for Southwest
#1291
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2023
Posts: 10
I can’t believe all the arguments I’m seeing stating “the company needs this to expand”. Really? Because that’s what contract negotiations are about: helping the company. I know that’s what I was thinking when I walked the picket line. It worked out great for us with the 800 right? I have news for you: the company will expand regardless. We are already flying out of IAH and ORD. I promise you they will operate out of DFW as well, with or without co-terminals. What the company really wants is to expand with reduced costs. Costs that come directly out of the pilot group’s pockets.
I see a lot of talk about “guardrails” and protections (and very little talk about compelling benefits). These guardrails all start with qualifiers like “probably”.
You will “probably” be able to self assign on reserve to avoid a co-terminal. You understand that those of us living in base on reserve are trying not to get used right? Self assigning sort of defeats the purpose. Covering multiple bases on reserve will not be fun. Remember how that’s been the standard counter to the junior upgrade at other airlines topic? “Yeah sure they make captain quick, but they have to cover multiple airports and that’s terrible”. The three cities proposed here may not be NYC, but that doesn’t mean they won’t be a nightmare to get around.
You will “probably” avoid a co-terminal line because others will bid them. Yeah… ok. Again no guarantees, and if those lines suck they will absolutely go junior. No avoiding it.
Everyone keeps cautioning the nay sayers to wait for the final language. There may be some truth to that, and I’ll try to remain open minded until that happens, but this looks like a major concession so far. Nothing in the bullet points that SWAPA sent out counter that. I’m thinking if there were anything more positive to release about this they would have done so. Time will tell but it feels like TA1 just got torpedoed.
I see a lot of talk about “guardrails” and protections (and very little talk about compelling benefits). These guardrails all start with qualifiers like “probably”.
You will “probably” be able to self assign on reserve to avoid a co-terminal. You understand that those of us living in base on reserve are trying not to get used right? Self assigning sort of defeats the purpose. Covering multiple bases on reserve will not be fun. Remember how that’s been the standard counter to the junior upgrade at other airlines topic? “Yeah sure they make captain quick, but they have to cover multiple airports and that’s terrible”. The three cities proposed here may not be NYC, but that doesn’t mean they won’t be a nightmare to get around.
You will “probably” avoid a co-terminal line because others will bid them. Yeah… ok. Again no guarantees, and if those lines suck they will absolutely go junior. No avoiding it.
Everyone keeps cautioning the nay sayers to wait for the final language. There may be some truth to that, and I’ll try to remain open minded until that happens, but this looks like a major concession so far. Nothing in the bullet points that SWAPA sent out counter that. I’m thinking if there were anything more positive to release about this they would have done so. Time will tell but it feels like TA1 just got torpedoed.
#1292
#1293
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2021
Position: B737 FO
Posts: 153
#1294
Gets Weekend Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,794
#1297
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,831
#1300
More Cowbell!!!
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: Spreading the LUV from the "Write" seat!!!
Posts: 346
Neither MCO nor BWI is on the co-terminal list. You’d have a **** load of guys for it if TPA/MCO was added. I’ll hold my judgement until I see the language.
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