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Old 09-23-2023, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tanker
At one time there was no ATIS template. We wrote the ATIS on the back of the napkin that the FA gave us with the load count. The story is there was a MDW FO who was upset that Captains didn't write the ATIS in the format that he wanted. He came up with the template, then made copies using the copy machine in the various crew lounges and put them in FO boxes. FltOps thinking that is what the pilots wanted started having them formally printed, then to save money added the template to the weather package. Now whether the story about the FO is true I don't know but that's what I heard when the photcopies first appeared in the FO's boxes. What I do know is that we did go from no template, just the napkin, to the photcopied template to the printed template to the weather package template.
...to nothing. I "accidently" throw it away with the TLR and duty time limits if I get the paperwork first, which is rare because I've already read everything on my EFB and don't care to grab the paperwork.
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Old 09-23-2023, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Right?!!! I've said the same a hundred times! WHY do professional pilots need an ATIS template?!?! Throw a pack of post it notes on the airplane and let's go. That is the most Mickey Mouse BS I've ever seen.
As another veteran of the napkin years, I will say the ATIS template did make it easier to interpret your co-star's transcriptions. Everyone had their own idea about the best way to arrange ATIS and gate info on a napkin...some made more sense than others. But going forward, in my cockpit (yes, I said cockpit!) no one is writing down ATIS info on anything unless they really want to.
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Old 09-23-2023, 07:30 AM
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I am so thankful that we got this issue hammered out. It is crucial to all of us and our futures.
Next up : seat full forward and up or down and back? Radar tilt full up? Turn down the screens and lights at the gate? Intercom on with chewing and snorting the whole flight or turn it off?
We have got to solve all of these problems here so we can get it codified in the contract.
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Old 09-23-2023, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I am so thankful that we got this issue hammered out. It is crucial to all of us and our futures.
Next up : seat full forward and up or down and back? Radar tilt full up? Turn down the screens and lights at the gate? Intercom on with chewing and snorting the whole flight or turn it off?
We have got to solve all of these problems here so we can get it codified in the contract.
Im sensing a little sarcasm… can’t be sure. 🤔
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Old 09-23-2023, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokey23
As another veteran of the napkin years, I will say the ATIS template did make it easier to interpret your co-star's transcriptions. Everyone had their own idea about the best way to arrange ATIS and gate info on a napkin...some made more sense than others. But going forward, in my cockpit (yes, I said cockpit!) no one is writing down ATIS info on anything unless they really want to.
it’s easier…and more standardized…to just print it off the acars…
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Old 09-23-2023, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Socalpt6
So which one is it? Do you want printers on 100% of the planes or do you want to just refresh an app on a iPad?
You assume we will have working wifi. I'm batting about .600 on working wifi.
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Old 09-23-2023, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
I don’t want the stupid ATIS sheet to fill out manually. Come on. That’s like private pilot $h!t right there. Get with the 1990s SWA!

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Im just asking. Do you want printers in all the airplanes or less paper in the cockpit? I can’t keep up.
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Old 09-23-2023, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Socalpt6
Im just asking. Do you want printers in all the airplanes or less paper in the cockpit? I can’t keep up.
Both. But if I had to pick one, I'd 100% go for less paper.
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Old 09-23-2023, 01:11 PM
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Both. But if I had to pick one, I'd 100% go for less paper.
Well we work for a LCC. So you have to pick one. I don’t expect them to buy and instal 800 printers to keep the select few boomers happy.
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Old 09-23-2023, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Socalpt6
Im just asking. Do you want printers in all the airplanes or less paper in the cockpit? I can’t keep up.
I watch OAL print out a novel each time I ride up front. Not sure why, maybe it's in their FOM.
it's all in the FMS in messages anyway. Why can't someone look at the messages again if they forget?
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