1,221 Reasons Not to work for Southwest
09-20-2023, 03:41 AM
#1181
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,030
About damn time.
I heard about it earlier this year from a check airman, who then went on a 10 minute diatribe on why it's a terrible idea to set missed-approach altitude instead of zeros. It's gonna be a rough few months I think. Just call me when I can go straight to APP mode without the airplane immediately exploding.
I heard about it earlier this year from a check airman, who then went on a 10 minute diatribe on why it's a terrible idea to set missed-approach altitude instead of zeros. It's gonna be a rough few months I think. Just call me when I can go straight to APP mode without the airplane immediately exploding.
09-20-2023, 05:17 AM
#1183
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,650
I just jumpseated on SkyWest, and they printed the ATIS out multiple times every leg and then the PM filled out some weird dry erase sheet with some of the atis info and the performance numbers.
I am definitely part of the smarter not harder club, but for the sake of standardization and having new guys know what to expect, I generally write out the ATIS in a non printer airplane (pretty much every 700 and most 800s). I also make stupid callouts and sometimes set zeroes on visual approaches even though it isn't required. I am trying to make the cockpit experience as close to what they practiced for the last couple of months as possible.
When I fly with an experienced FO, I just do whatever he does. The last pretty senior guy I flew with refused to let me set up the cockpit because he was "just going to have to check everything" and was generally a miserable a-hole. He wrote the ATIS out and argued with me about max engine warm up times (5 minutes on the first start of the day isn't required if you are sitting at the end of the runway ready to go). It was a fun trip except when I had to be around him.
I am definitely part of the smarter not harder club, but for the sake of standardization and having new guys know what to expect, I generally write out the ATIS in a non printer airplane (pretty much every 700 and most 800s). I also make stupid callouts and sometimes set zeroes on visual approaches even though it isn't required. I am trying to make the cockpit experience as close to what they practiced for the last couple of months as possible.
When I fly with an experienced FO, I just do whatever he does. The last pretty senior guy I flew with refused to let me set up the cockpit because he was "just going to have to check everything" and was generally a miserable a-hole. He wrote the ATIS out and argued with me about max engine warm up times (5 minutes on the first start of the day isn't required if you are sitting at the end of the runway ready to go). It was a fun trip except when I had to be around him.
09-20-2023, 06:24 AM
#1184
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,783
I just jumpseated on SkyWest, and they printed the ATIS out multiple times every leg and then the PM filled out some weird dry erase sheet with some of the atis info and the performance numbers.
I am definitely part of the smarter not harder club, but for the sake of standardization and having new guys know what to expect, I generally write out the ATIS in a non printer airplane (pretty much every 700 and most 800s). I also make stupid callouts and sometimes set zeroes on visual approaches even though it isn't required. I am trying to make the cockpit experience as close to what they practiced for the last couple of months as possible.
When I fly with an experienced FO, I just do whatever he does. The last pretty senior guy I flew with refused to let me set up the cockpit because he was "just going to have to check everything" and was generally a miserable a-hole. He wrote the ATIS out and argued with me about max engine warm up times (5 minutes on the first start of the day isn't required if you are sitting at the end of the runway ready to go). It was a fun trip except when I had to be around him.
I am definitely part of the smarter not harder club, but for the sake of standardization and having new guys know what to expect, I generally write out the ATIS in a non printer airplane (pretty much every 700 and most 800s). I also make stupid callouts and sometimes set zeroes on visual approaches even though it isn't required. I am trying to make the cockpit experience as close to what they practiced for the last couple of months as possible.
When I fly with an experienced FO, I just do whatever he does. The last pretty senior guy I flew with refused to let me set up the cockpit because he was "just going to have to check everything" and was generally a miserable a-hole. He wrote the ATIS out and argued with me about max engine warm up times (5 minutes on the first start of the day isn't required if you are sitting at the end of the runway ready to go). It was a fun trip except when I had to be around him.
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09-20-2023, 07:57 AM
#1185
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
I admittedly had to fold the crew sheet several times to limit the accordion effect... but I overcame my OCD all in a desire to not be teased by people I've never met on APC.
As Jack Handy says... "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me"
😁
09-20-2023, 08:21 AM
#1186
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2023
Posts: 250
I just jumpseated on SkyWest, and they printed the ATIS out multiple times every leg and then the PM filled out some weird dry erase sheet with some of the atis info and the performance numbers.
I am definitely part of the smarter not harder club, but for the sake of standardization and having new guys know what to expect, I generally write out the ATIS in a non printer airplane (pretty much every 700 and most 800s). I also make stupid callouts and sometimes set zeroes on visual approaches even though it isn't required. I am trying to make the cockpit experience as close to what they practiced for the last couple of months as possible.
When I fly with an experienced FO, I just do whatever he does. The last pretty senior guy I flew with refused to let me set up the cockpit because he was "just going to have to check everything" and was generally a miserable a-hole. He wrote the ATIS out and argued with me about max engine warm up times (5 minutes on the first start of the day isn't required if you are sitting at the end of the runway ready to go). It was a fun trip except when I had to be around him.
I am definitely part of the smarter not harder club, but for the sake of standardization and having new guys know what to expect, I generally write out the ATIS in a non printer airplane (pretty much every 700 and most 800s). I also make stupid callouts and sometimes set zeroes on visual approaches even though it isn't required. I am trying to make the cockpit experience as close to what they practiced for the last couple of months as possible.
When I fly with an experienced FO, I just do whatever he does. The last pretty senior guy I flew with refused to let me set up the cockpit because he was "just going to have to check everything" and was generally a miserable a-hole. He wrote the ATIS out and argued with me about max engine warm up times (5 minutes on the first start of the day isn't required if you are sitting at the end of the runway ready to go). It was a fun trip except when I had to be around him.
09-20-2023, 08:58 AM
#1187
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 766
I thought you guys should know, after reading these comments and taking them to heart, I folded the crew sheet today and threw the ATIS sheet away.
I admittedly had to fold the crew sheet several times to limit the accordion effect... but I overcame my OCD all in a desire to not be teased by people I've never met on APC.
As Jack Handy says... "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me"
😁
I admittedly had to fold the crew sheet several times to limit the accordion effect... but I overcame my OCD all in a desire to not be teased by people I've never met on APC.
As Jack Handy says... "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me"
😁
09-20-2023, 09:42 AM
#1188
Spikes the Koolaid
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: 737
Posts: 403
I thought you guys should know, after reading these comments and taking them to heart, I folded the crew sheet today and threw the ATIS sheet away.
I admittedly had to fold the crew sheet several times to limit the accordion effect... but I overcame my OCD all in a desire to not be teased by people I've never met on APC.
As Jack Handy says... "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me"
😁
I admittedly had to fold the crew sheet several times to limit the accordion effect... but I overcame my OCD all in a desire to not be teased by people I've never met on APC.
As Jack Handy says... "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me"
😁
I don't throw away the atis sheet in case the FO has an Eeyore about it (I kid I kid) but I definitely tell them "You're welcome to fill out as much as you want or just trash it, I don't use it because of space internet and acars."
Most seem to throw it out.
09-20-2023, 09:58 AM
#1189
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,030
You know you can just fold the crew sheet in half right? You can see all the names and the first three or so legs of flights. The DU bezel is pretty much exactly 8.5 inches so it sits there perfectly without interfering with buttons or "accordioning". And only one fold so perfect for being lazy.
I don't throw away the atis sheet in case the FO has an Eeyore about it (I kid I kid) but I definitely tell them "You're welcome to fill out as much as you want or just trash it, I don't use it because of space internet and acars."
Most seem to throw it out.
I don't throw away the atis sheet in case the FO has an Eeyore about it (I kid I kid) but I definitely tell them "You're welcome to fill out as much as you want or just trash it, I don't use it because of space internet and acars."
Most seem to throw it out.
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