Grumpyaviator

I guess of all the airlines we’re the only ones doing it right.

waterskisabersw

This is the motto of Southwestern Trailways.

e6bpilot

I just jumpseated on SkyWest, and they printed the ATIS out multiple times every leg and then the PM filled out some weird dry erase sheet with some of the atis info and the performance numbers.
I am definitely part of the smarter not harder club, but for the sake of standardization and having new guys know what to expect, I generally write out the ATIS in a non printer airplane (pretty much every 700 and most 800s). I also make stupid callouts and sometimes set zeroes on visual approaches even though it isn't required. I am trying to make the cockpit experience as close to what they practiced for the last couple of months as possible.
When I fly with an experienced FO, I just do whatever he does. The last pretty senior guy I flew with refused to let me set up the cockpit because he was "just going to have to check everything" and was generally a miserable a-hole. He wrote the ATIS out and argued with me about max engine warm up times (5 minutes on the first start of the day isn't required if you are sitting at the end of the runway ready to go). It was a fun trip except when I had to be around him.

WHACKMASTER

This has definitely been my experience at SWA. If there’s going to be someone unpleasant to fly with it’s going to be someone that’s in the seat to the right and they’ll be senior in that seat.

🔥👇

ZapBrannigan

I thought you guys should know, after reading these comments and taking them to heart, I folded the crew sheet today and threw the ATIS sheet away.

I admittedly had to fold the crew sheet several times to limit the accordion effect... but I overcame my OCD all in a desire to not be teased by people I've never met on APC.

As Jack Handy says... "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me"

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Traffic Alert

Notice how at a regional they allow pilots to print when they want. It’s not required there either. You sound like a lot of SWA pilots who keep the bar low for themselves. Go jumpseat on DL/UA/AA and see how they run the operation. That should be the goal.

Crockrocket95

Dang it Zap, all it needs is 2 folds and it sits perfectly and flat on the center DU. Take the ATIS sheet, fold in half along the bottom ATIS BOX, fold the right side about 1 inch in and rip cleanly. It fits perfectly and flat. But Im gonna take the weather packet and fold every sheet so it sticks up about 5 inches when im done if we ever fly together...

waterskisabersw

You know you can just fold the crew sheet in half right? You can see all the names and the first three or so legs of flights. The DU bezel is pretty much exactly 8.5 inches so it sits there perfectly without interfering with buttons or "accordioning". And only one fold so perfect for being lazy.

I don't throw away the atis sheet in case the FO has an Eeyore about it (I kid I kid) but I definitely tell them "You're welcome to fill out as much as you want or just trash it, I don't use it because of space internet and acars."

Most seem to throw it out.

Grumpyaviator

What will we argue about when we’re paperless?

waterskisabersw

You know if you just leave the Jepp app open it autorefreshes the atis... You don't need to keep hitting refresh.