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Old 08-28-2023, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
So what, us and every other airline out there. Stop making it out like this is a WN problem.
I wasn’t. I was saying why people spread the rumor that we hire anyone that walks in the door. Relatively speaking, we do. That’s what you said you didn’t understand.

However, we don’t prescreen to make sure applicants are qualified anymore. They screen at the interview. Then, they don’t hire an unknown number of people they interview that are simply not qualified. Then they brag to us that their interview numbers are high and they’re keeping their standards high as evidenced by the number of people they don’t hire. I believe the interview team is doing a great job and they are selective. But it’s not purely them being selective.
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Old 08-28-2023, 03:30 PM
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I wonder why airlines don't conduct simulator evaluations during interviews anymore? Seems like you could get a good snapshot of how someone will perform in training if you could see them fly an ILS and a couple of steep turns raw data.
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Old 08-28-2023, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
I wonder why airlines don't conduct simulator evaluations during interviews anymore? Seems like you could get a good snapshot of how someone will perform in training if you could see them fly an ILS and a couple of steep turns raw data.
Who wants to dedicate the sim time for that anymore? Our sims are running like 20 hrs a day just to keep up with CQT, initial and upgrades. I think wasting people’s time on a desktop flight sim won’t tell you any more than asking some situational based ?’s. I don’t think the problem is people failing training…it’s retaining them once they pass.
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Old 08-28-2023, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
I wonder why airlines don't conduct simulator evaluations during interviews anymore? Seems like you could get a good snapshot of how someone will perform in training if you could see them fly an ILS and a couple of steep turns raw data.
they don’t want to disqualify pilots for something they can train them for.
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Old 08-28-2023, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by usernamehere
I wasn’t. I was saying why people spread the rumor that we hire anyone that walks in the door. Relatively speaking, we do. That’s what you said you didn’t understand.

However, we don’t prescreen to make sure applicants are qualified anymore. They screen at the interview. Then, they don’t hire an unknown number of people they interview that are simply not qualified. Then they brag to us that their interview numbers are high and they’re keeping their standards high as evidenced by the number of people they don’t hire. I believe the interview team is doing a great job and they are selective. But it’s not purely them being selective.
Wow is that really Southwest's technique? invite those to interview who would've otherwise never had a chance... and them slam the door on them? just to say "see we are picky!"

That just waste's everyone time. The interviewers, and the applicants. Not only that, but a TBNT after interviewing can REALLY make someone depressed. Especially if it was their dream job. Not cool at all.
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:31 PM
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Wow is that really Southwest's technique? invite those to interview who would've otherwise never had a chance... and them slam the door on them? just to say "see we are picky!"

That just waste's everyone time. The interviewers, and the applicants. Not only that, but a TBNT after interviewing can REALLY make someone depressed. Especially if it was their dream job. Not cool at all.
lol don’t believe everything you read off the internet my friend
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Old 08-29-2023, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoe
Wow is that really Southwest's technique? invite those to interview who would've otherwise never had a chance... and them slam the door on them? just to say "see we are picky!"

That just waste's everyone time. The interviewers, and the applicants. Not only that, but a TBNT after interviewing can REALLY make someone depressed. Especially if it was their dream job. Not cool at all.
If you don’t have an atp but say you do - you shouldn’t be surprised or depressed you didn’t get hired. It’s that type of thing from what I understand. But it is a waste of everyone’s time.

Be honest in your app. That’s been the rule for ever.

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Old 08-29-2023, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoe
That just waste's everyone time. The interviewers, and the applicants. Not only that, but a TBNT after interviewing can REALLY make someone depressed. Especially if it was their dream job. Not cool at all.
I tried to tell everyone "not cool" and I'd be depressed after all my layoffs, furloughs, and TBNTs that occurred for me between 2001 and mid 2010s but somehow that didn't workout for me.

Now get off my lawn.
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Old 08-29-2023, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoe
Wow is that really Southwest's technique? invite those to interview who would've otherwise never had a chance... and them slam the door on them? just to say "see we are picky!"

That just waste's everyone time. The interviewers, and the applicants. Not only that, but a TBNT after interviewing can REALLY make someone depressed. Especially if it was their dream job. Not cool at all.
Well, usually interviewees are turned away with a TNBT due to either not owning up to training failures, not having a good personality, or not being able to answer basic questions. Just because someone in interviewing for THEIR dream job, doesn't mean they are a good fit.
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Old 08-29-2023, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BusBoe
Wow is that really Southwest's technique? invite those to interview who would've otherwise never had a chance... and them slam the door on them? just to say "see we are picky!"

That just waste's everyone time. The interviewers, and the applicants. Not only that, but a TBNT after interviewing can REALLY make someone depressed. Especially if it was their dream job. Not cool at all.


I doubt very much you believe what you are posting. Hate will eat you up, let it go .
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