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Old 01-15-2023, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Well, it passed their MEC & is going out for member ratification. I’m fairly certain it will pass and thus as of the beginning of March, the upper bar will have been set.
That’s fantastic news.
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Old 01-15-2023, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
Gotta admit, in tone and verbiage, his posts sounded A LOT like possible FH bot Teamroper from not very long ago.
Ya got me…an ivy league ambulance chaser who wants to spend my weekend brainstorming how to unite pilots so we actually get a contract this time arpund…something y’all have failed at for how long now??? Go on alienating the newhire…

If I didn’t have intel confirming the tinfoil wizards are the tiny minority, I’d be dreading my years to upgrade.

Blue side up boys (and don’t forget to watch for crossing traffic).
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Old 01-15-2023, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
The acronym is LASER. Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.

I and 3 others designed and built one in high school.
Of course you did.
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Old 01-15-2023, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CA1900
Whoever stuck this on the logbook I got the other day is my hero:
The furry? Your hero? Ok...
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Old 01-15-2023, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Well, it passed their MEC & is going out for member ratification. I’m fairly certain it will pass and thus as of the beginning of March, the upper bar will have been set.
Not the upper bar but definitely the floor…
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Old 01-15-2023, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
The acronym is LASER. Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.

I and 3 others designed and built one in high school.
But did it come with a muffin?
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Old 01-16-2023, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover
seems likenit didnt meet their 4 pillars they talked about. Not sure why it was sent out as a TA.
retro is horrible and cant even be called retro. Didnt come anywhere close on their B fund. And pay is not impressive at all. I also dont think it even addressed retirement wants they had.
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Itll pass just like all of them are passing. Seems like sw may have to be the one to actually say no to something.
Problem you have is a significant portion of the pilot group was hired rather recently, and as such has little to no memory of the B fund. The further the B fund gets in the rearview mirror, the less that pillar has a chance of become a priority and/or reality. Many of the new hires can't even fathom "retirement" let alone collecting a pension to get a pass on the TA, the company was smart to focus on items that the junior pilots can really focus on.

Same with retro, a significant portion of the seniority list wasn't expecting much for the contract delay from 2019 till present, so shorting a "real" retro will actually also fall into the category of a "senior pilots" problem.
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nene
Problem you have is a significant portion of the pilot group was hired rather recently, and as such has little to no memory of the B fund. The further the B fund gets in the rearview mirror, the less that pillar has a chance of become a priority and/or reality. Many of the new hires can't even fathom "retirement" let alone collecting a pension to get a pass on the TA, the company was smart to focus on items that the junior pilots can really focus on.

Same with retro, a significant portion of the seniority list wasn't expecting much for the contract delay from 2019 till present, so shorting a "real" retro will actually also fall into the category of a "senior pilots" problem.
Ya, anecdotally, this seems to make sense.

Major airline pilot seniority lists are becoming more and more full of youngish mostly 20-something novices who, for the first time in their lives, are making “adulting” money and “getting to fly” bigger-than-RJ equipment to “exotic” locations, occasionally in the company of “hot” FA’s, all while posting about it on TikTok and IG.

What could be better? Besides, isn’t retirement only something ”old” people worry about? That’s literally like 40 years away, almost twice as long from now as a lot of them have been alive.
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