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Old 01-14-2023, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot

I am ready for SWAPA to turn up the heat in a big way. It's time for the SWAPA BOD to stop being comfortable. This latest negotiation update has me concerned. It's fun to complain about being stonewalled. We have been doing it for years. It's another thing entirely to do something about it.
I believe it is coming sooner rather than later. And I'm ready for it as well.
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Old 01-14-2023, 08:08 PM
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I firmly believe if you don’t know or understand the operation you are overseeing well enough to diagnose failures you have no business in that position. Hiring a consulting firm is nothing more then PR and if (when) it happens again, the consulting firm can be blamed for not identifying the fault.

Consulting firms are a scam. They exist solely so those in charge have the ability to blame the “consultants” when something goes over budget or turns into a dumpster fire.
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Old 01-15-2023, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerShift
I firmly believe if you don’t know or understand the operation you are overseeing well enough to diagnose failures you have no business in that position. Hiring a consulting firm is nothing more then PR and if (when) it happens again, the consulting firm can be blamed for not identifying the fault.

Consulting firms are a scam. They exist solely so those in charge have the ability to blame the “consultants” when something goes over budget or turns into a dumpster fire.
And just imagine how it would look if, I don't know, the current COO worked at the outside consulting firm that we just hired for 12 years or so.
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Old 01-15-2023, 08:27 PM
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What would be funny is for an activist investor to come on scene. CEO through all department heads need to go.
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Old 01-16-2023, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Noconcessions
What would be funny is for an activist investor to come on scene. CEO through all department heads need to go.

If you’ve ever been ata company where that happened it’s not funny.
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Old 01-16-2023, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Noconcessions
What would be funny is for an activist investor to come on scene. CEO through all department heads need to go.
i do not wish Carl Icahn on my worst enemy.
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Old 01-16-2023, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
i do not wish Carl Icahn on my worst enemy.
Nor Warren Buffett. Ask anybody who's ever worked for one of his companies.
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Old 01-17-2023, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CA1900
Nor Warren Buffett. Ask anybody who's ever worked for one of his companies.
You mean, like his top 10 in ownership:
Apple,
Bank of America,
Chevron,
Coca-Cola,
American Express,
Occidental Petroleum,
Kraft Heinz,
Moody’s,
Taiwan Semiconductor,
Activision Blizzard

Your statement does not square with what I know about those companies. Nor is it in parallel with what Carl Icahn did with TWA.
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Old 01-17-2023, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
You mean, like his top 10 in ownership:
Apple,
Bank of America,
Chevron,
Coca-Cola,
American Express,
Occidental Petroleum,
Kraft Heinz,
Moody’s,
Taiwan Semiconductor,
Activision Blizzard

Your statement does not square with what I know about those companies. Nor is it in parallel with what Carl Icahn did with TWA.
Id say the shareholders are happier than the employees, just ask execjet pilots.
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Old 01-17-2023, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
Id say the shareholders are happier than the employees, just ask execjet pilots.
Would you say that is true for most companies? Must Aviators who are Grumpy would say that.
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