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01-18-2023, 07:48 AM

#141

ZapBrannigan

Furloughed Again?!

Joined APC: Aug 2007

Position: Boeing 737

Posts: 4,804

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadThundercock

Who did ALPA stab in the back? Did you come from a commuter? Are you a FAT?

One could argue that ALPA stabbed its furloughed members in the back - thousands upon thousands of them - by first giving scope relief to mainline during the furlough, and outsourcing vast numbers of jobs to the regional jet operators. And then by raising the retirement age to 65 extending the furlough. Suggesting that “Jets4Jobs” was an adequate solution to lost mainline earnings when instead it harmed both the furloughed pilots AND the regional pilots whose seniority list was tossed in the trash can when furloughees came and took their Captain seats.

No thanks to ALPA. They’ve done enough damage to our careers,

01-18-2023, 07:53 AM

#142

Psycho18th

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Aug 2016

Posts: 252

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

The best union is one the ONLY serves your interests…not those of any other company.

Aside from SWAPA’s checkered history of actually serving the interests of the company vs the interests of the pilots.

01-18-2023, 08:13 AM

#143

Palmtree Pilot

7.27%

Joined APC: Feb 2006

Position: Boeing

Posts: 543

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Originally Posted by Psycho18th

Aside from SWAPA’s checkered history of actually serving the interests of the company vs the interests of the pilots.

Key word, “history”. Are they doing that now?

01-18-2023, 08:22 AM

#144

ChadThundercock

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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

That's good info. Thanks.

01-18-2023, 08:34 AM

#145

ChadThundercock

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It's ****ing nice to hear that a commuter pilot, now mainline, can admit that they undercut their own profession. For ****ing decades.

01-18-2023, 08:43 AM

#146

Mozam

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Posts: 1,260

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadThundercock

It's ****ing nice to hear that a commuter pilot, now mainline, can admit that they undercut their own profession. For ****ing decades.

I never Understood how the legacy pilots could ever say this. They gave up scope for pay, then ***** about who is flying what they gave away. Just like with WN , do not give something away and then complain later. MX and ground ops both got burned by this .

01-18-2023, 09:10 AM

#147

Psycho18th

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Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot

Key word, “history”. Are they doing that now?

I don’t think so, but I guess won’t know until we see who’s negotiating against us in the next contract cycle?

01-18-2023, 10:50 AM

#148

Hobbit64

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Joined APC: Sep 2009

Posts: 612

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Originally Posted by ChadThundercock

It's ****ing nice to hear that a commuter pilot, now mainline, can admit that they undercut their own profession. For ****ing decades.

A. He’s not ‘mainline’. SWA doesn’t have a regional, so he never flew for a SWA commuter.
B. Take your arguments up with the mainline pilots that gave scope relief decades ago and set the stage for regional jets taking huge sums of the legacy traffic.

egad! I just fed a troll.

01-18-2023, 01:10 PM

#149

at6d

Strike averted!

Joined APC: Mar 2015

Position: B737

Posts: 3,789

All SWA flying is 100% in house and flown by SWAPA pilots. I will never allow myself to vote for a contract that weakens scope.

As for ALPA? Yeah right. Delta vs. Comair and ASA. Same team, right? I sent my strike check to Comair. Probably the only good thing that came out of Eagle ALPA. You’re welcome. Now get off my lawn!