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01-14-2023, 05:16 AM

#101

Cyio

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crockrocket95

Ive realized the amount of people who have been here 20 years and have NO CLUE how our current contract works is pretty crazy.

I don't trust they will vote informed... If they haven't taken the time yet to figure out the piece of paper than controls their pay and lives.

Im not talking understanding all the convoluted reserve pay rules, etc, I'm talking basic stuff.

What gets me is why hasn't SWAPA made a more concerted effort to educate its members? Are they apathetic to the problem, dont realize there is a problem or are the problem themselves? Honestly could be all three or a mixture of it, not really sure. I feel like this could all be summed up in a one page document.

01-14-2023, 06:41 AM

#102

WHACKMASTER

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Originally Posted by Cyio

Agreed. There seems to be too small of a fire under their ass to motivate & educate considering the monumental campaign they need to run with this pilot group. I’ve written and told them as much but of course that’s only one voice.

01-15-2023, 09:39 AM

#103

ChadThundercock

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Why did we vote to raise dues?

01-15-2023, 11:47 AM

#104

flyguy81

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadThundercock

Why did we vote to raise dues?

For negotiations, SPC, etc.

Dues return to normal levels once we get a CBA. You’d know this if you read your SWAPA emails.

01-15-2023, 12:01 PM

#105

WHACKMASTER

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadThundercock

Why did we vote to raise dues?

Which also assumes you never voted (perhaps you’re new on property). Get in the fight! The quality and value of career depends on it.

01-15-2023, 02:44 PM

#106

mulcher

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER

Which also assumes you never voted (perhaps you’re new on property). Get in the fight! The quality and value of career depends on it.

I took it as. WTH are they spending the increase on? Why did we vote for the increase? They aren’t doing anything different…yet. Time will tell real soon I hope.

01-15-2023, 08:19 PM

#107

Noconcessions

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Position: 737 FO

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We are nowhere close to a turd being floated. The re-write is a much bigger deal than they anticipated. Almost all of our sections are major laggards and fails. We still have large percentages of people picking up and trying to help scheduling do their job. There were lots of senior people working over the Christmas debacle. Seniority here is only for the seat. You have far better options elsewhere.

01-16-2023, 03:32 AM

#108

Mozam

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadThundercock

Why did we vote to raise dues?

That was a hot topic. If you really want to know about the dues and how the pilot group felt about it , recommended going on the SWAPA fourm .

01-16-2023, 03:41 AM

#109

RJSAviator76

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noconcessions

We still have large percentages of people picking up and trying to help scheduling do their job. There were lots of senior people working over the Christmas debacle. Seniority here is only for the seat. You have far better options elsewhere.

I know you're not advocating boycotting OT pick up, right?