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12-27-2022, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jb97

I think the lost revenue and compensation is going to be extremely large - approaching 9000 flights and counting - back of napkin number is scary.

It’s not gonna imperil a company like LUV with the industry’s best balance sheet but - ooof.

Refunds per Available Seat Mile? (RASM)

Cost of Refunds per Aptly Screwed Holiday? (CRASH)

Lost Ur Vacation? (LUV)

12-27-2022, 06:45 PM

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There goes profit sharing. I say we make them take it out of their compensation. The C suite is what I'm referring to.
or one of these guys https://www.yeti.com/coolers/hard-coolers/tundra/10350020000.html?country=US&currency=USD&utm_sourc e=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=__iv_p_1_g__c_ _w__n_x_d_m_v__l__t__r__x_pla_y_7597392_f_online_o _10350020000_z_US_i_en_j__s__e__h_9028818_ii__vi__ &key_&gclid=CjwKCAiAzKqdBhAnEiwAePEjkkXcc9bdizZ r-QKXxNos-TyBpdRc5SchySoDSk4oG2GnrdIFaaOp6hoCSd8QAvD_BwE&gcl src=aw.ds

12-27-2022, 09:07 PM

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Perhaps someone can do a little research and find out if any operational meltdown in airline history held a candle to this one. I am genuinely curious if these cancellation numbers/percentages have ever been beat.

JetBlue Valentines Day massacre circa 2007 maybe? Think that ended up costing north of 30-40 million dollars

12-27-2022, 10:16 PM

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30-40 Million was a walk in the park 2016 SW melt down. $100 million + in today's market

12-28-2022, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hoover

30-40 Million was a walk in the park 2016 SW melt down. $100 million + in today's market

I am guessing this meltdown will be 300-500 million.

Thank you crew scheduling . Single-handedly ripped this airline apart. Also a shoutout to the VP of ground ops.

12-28-2022, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mozam

I am guessing this meltdown will be 300-500 million.

Thank you crew scheduling . Single-handedly ripped this airline apart. Also a shoutout to the VP of ground ops.

It may be even worse than that. Southwest is trending #2 on twitter and the comments are crazy.

12-28-2022, 04:10 AM

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where is the leadership? Did Jordan come out on TV yet ?

12-28-2022, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mozam

I am guessing this meltdown will be 300-500 million.

Thank you crew scheduling . Single-handedly ripped this airline apart. Also a shoutout to the VP of ground ops.

I think you are the right track with the VP of ground Ops but crew scheduling???? Unless they hire, train and set policy I don't see them at fault any more than Pilots. Not to mention all of the other departments that had some contribution to this episode. If management makes it impossible to perform during IROPs the blame lies squarely with them. I imagine being a scheduler during this time was not much fun.

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12-28-2022, 04:13 AM

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where is the leadership? Did Jordan come out on TV yet ?

have you tried google?

12-28-2022, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by drywhitetoast

It may be even worse than that. Southwest is trending #2 on twitter and the comments are crazy.

Reputational damage this bad makes me wonder if another airline buys SWA with its own money, breaks it up and keeps only the scraps they want. Valujet was still profitable after the accident but the damage to the brand was so severe they had no choice but to buy AirTran (the -200 operator in Orlando) just to get their name and retire the Critter brand.