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Old 12-26-2022, 05:58 PM
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As seen on Twitter and many others news outlets today. Anyone know where I can submit my resume to get this **** cleaned up?
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Old 12-26-2022, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
Severe mismanagement resulting in a loss of operational control.
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Mr. Jordan told employees in a message Sunday: “The winter storm was unprecedented all across our network. And we’ve got fallout from that—just trying to get the network back to normal.” Mr. Jordan said out-of-date systems are partly to blame. Part of what we’re suffering is a lack of tools,” he said. The airline had already been in the process of upgrading some of those systems.
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Old 12-26-2022, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 01110011
Am I reading it right that they threatened to fire the rampers over Christmas for calling in sick without an in person doctor’s visit, in a city where employers can only legally require a doctor’s note for an absence of more than 4 days?

Sounds like a genius way to push an already overworked and underappreciated group into 3 days of illness…. And rack up some awesome wrongful termination lawsuits.
Maybe. In some cases RLA (federal) supersedes state/local labor laws, so if the CBA allows it, it might be kosher. Kind of like I'm sure DEN is cool with you toking up on lunch break but FAA/DOT will shred all your certs in a heartbeat.
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Old 12-26-2022, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO
As seen on Twitter and many others news outlets today. Anyone know where I can submit my resume to get this **** cleaned up?
Blatantly illegal. I can’t believe they didn’t run that memo by a lawyer first.

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Old 12-26-2022, 07:06 PM
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I'm at another airline....I hate watching this happen to you guys.
Hoping you get better management, mine needs better too.
Too much effort on pronouns not enough on verbs.
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Old 12-26-2022, 07:43 PM
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From the WSJ, it’s on you iPhone stocks app to read.
”Southwest’s chief commercial officer, said in an interview the airline is taking steps such as covering customers’ reasonable travel costs—including hotels, rental cars and tickets on other airlines, and will be communicating the process for customers to have expenses reimbursed.”

That’d be a nice gesture but will shocked to be contacted.
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Old 12-26-2022, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ElonMusk
Silver lining….

This is going to open up so many non rev opportunities going forward. I figure six months of non rev bliss before people forget.
That could exponentially help my commute
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Old 12-26-2022, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Maybe. In some cases RLA (federal) supersedes state/local labor laws, so if the CBA allows it, it might be kosher. Kind of like I'm sure DEN is cool with you toking up on lunch break but FAA/DOT will shred all your certs in a heartbeat.
This is not the case, legally. I'll try to be general with this, and not try to bring in constitutionality.

Look at the recent quagmire regarding work rule requirements in California about having breaks. Held to be legal, constitutional, and binding all the way up the judicial food chain, and is resulting in multiple airlines reconsidering having California bases.

Look also at a lot of California, Colorado, and Illinois requirements for sick leave, harassment training, and parental leave. Also found to be binding for the airline, or at least crews based in that state.

It's about what is more restrictive. Federal law can supersede state law and vice versa, but only in that circumstance. And a CBA can't override/waive state OR federal law, despite what gets ratified and/or signed.
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Old 12-26-2022, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Coming from a DAL guy, folks need to seriously relax. Every airline has its turn in the barrel. Heck, a meltdown by NWA back in the day was big news back in the day. I think it was Comair that had their scheduling system glitch out right before the end of the year and no one knew were anyone was...or the airplanes. I think JB had the same thing.

Now if you're upset that "well, this is SWA, and we're supposed to be different!", that I can't help with, other than to say pride goeth before the fall.

In a year no one will remember, or care.
I agree with you that the guy shouldn't base his decision of UAL vs SWA on this once meltdown. But if he has the opportunity to go to UAL and lives in DEN, why on earth would he choose SWA? Seniority loss would be kept to an absolute minimum and he'd have a much higher career potential.
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I agree with you that the guy shouldn't base his decision of UAL vs SWA on this once meltdown. But if he has the opportunity to go to UAL and lives in DEN, why on earth would he choose SWA? Seniority loss would be kept to an absolute minimum and he'd have a much higher career potential.

Based on current market conditions….with an offer from both…UAL wins.
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