View Poll Results: Domiciles where vacancies will most likely be
OAK
37
28.91%
LAX
19
14.84%
LAS
23
17.97%
PHX
11
8.59%
DEN
79
61.72%
DAL
8
6.25%
HOU
5
3.91%
MDW
11
8.59%
BWI
31
24.22%
MCO
3
2.34%
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12-29-2022, 06:50 AM
#62
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the junior captain systemwide is typically around 60% system seniority so probably so
12-29-2022, 07:39 AM
#63
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I don't think it'll go that low. There's still quite a few senior people waiting for east coast base upgrades and when they can get it, they'll switch seats. I'd say mid-late 2016 hires "might" have a crack at it depending on what base they want. I'm guessing it'll trend to mid-late 2015 hires by late spring/summer. And then after the vacation bidding ends in Sept, it'll go back pretty senior again.
12-29-2022, 08:03 AM
#64
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I don't think it'll go that low. There's still quite a few senior people waiting for east coast base upgrades and when they can get it, they'll switch seats. I'd say mid-late 2016 hires "might" have a crack at it depending on what base they want. I'm guessing it'll trend to mid-late 2015 hires by late spring/summer. And then after the vacation bidding ends in Sept, it'll go back pretty senior again.
12-29-2022, 08:14 AM
#65
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12-29-2022, 08:27 AM
#66
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Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
The key to juniority is east coast (& Midwest) vacancies. Those create the secondary vacancies that go junior out west. Need the company to plus up BWI, MCO, MDW, and Texas to really grease the skids.
12-29-2022, 01:02 PM
#68
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Posts: 3,670
I think it's the whole system seniority vs. relative seniority thing. I'll admit it makes my brain hurt.
I looked up the employee numbers of the two plugs for Jan and Feb on the system seniority list and the difference in seniority was 179. The numbers I gave above are seniority number as assigned on DOH from the vacancy e-mail. I believe that means 27 people between the two have exited the list in the last 7.5 years. AirTran added another variable that I still haven't figured out.
Someone please correct me where I'm mistaken.
I looked up the employee numbers of the two plugs for Jan and Feb on the system seniority list and the difference in seniority was 179. The numbers I gave above are seniority number as assigned on DOH from the vacancy e-mail. I believe that means 27 people between the two have exited the list in the last 7.5 years. AirTran added another variable that I still haven't figured out.
Someone please correct me where I'm mistaken.
If you look at the list above the 101k employee numbers, you will see jumbled employee numbers relative to system seniority in clumps. That is a dead giveaway for a group of airtran pilots that was wedged into the seniority list.
So yes, you are correct. Those 27 people (2 were classmates of mine) have left the company.
12-29-2022, 06:53 PM
#69
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Posts: 2,920
I’m a late ‘15 and still almost 400 away from DEN/PHX/LAS
‘14 hires can’t hold MDW/HOU/DAL
As far as MCO/ATL….lol
So if you’re talking a 2018 hire holding LAX or OAK…anything is possible…but there’s a lot of bypassing FO’s who’d have to keep bypassing.
12-29-2022, 09:08 PM
#70
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114 is Aug ‘15. But that’s only 2 bases. Outside of CA, it’s Summer ‘14 hires.
I’m a late ‘15 and still almost 400 away from DEN/PHX/LAS
‘14 hires can’t hold MDW/HOU/DAL
As far as MCO/ATL….lol
So if you’re talking a 2018 hire holding LAX or OAK…anything is possible…but there’s a lot of bypassing FO’s who’d have to keep bypassing.
I’m a late ‘15 and still almost 400 away from DEN/PHX/LAS
‘14 hires can’t hold MDW/HOU/DAL
As far as MCO/ATL….lol
So if you’re talking a 2018 hire holding LAX or OAK…anything is possible…but there’s a lot of bypassing FO’s who’d have to keep bypassing.
I think the bypass numbers are going to actually go up as long as they keep the reserve percentages high as many folks don't want to upgrade to reserve. That creates opportunities to those who don't mind doing that, especially on the west coast.
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