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Old 12-02-2022, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
The difference is that one airline going on strike is an inconvenience, not a catastrophe. If the railway workers were to actually strike the entire rail transportation system would be shut down. That could have some pretty drastic consequences if it went on for any length of time.

Really??? Tell that to AA in the mid 1990's when then President Bill Clinton prevented them from striking. Allowing the largest domestic carrier to strike is doubtful at best. That being said, an actual strike vote would get a lot of press.
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Old 12-02-2022, 11:32 PM
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Really??? Tell that to AA in the mid 1990's when then President Bill Clinton prevented them from striking. Allowing the largest domestic carrier to strike is doubtful at best. That being said, an actual strike vote would get a lot of press.
President Clinton did not have the power to prevent the American pilots from striking in 1997. He only had the power to delay them from striking for a total of 60 days by establishing a "Presidential Emergency Board" (PEB). That is exactly what President Clinton did on February 15, 1997 after the American pilots had gone on strike for 24 minutes.

32 days later, on March 19, 1997, the American pilots reached a tentative agreement with management. You can read about that here. The tentative agreement was then ratified by the membership of American Airlines pilots on May 5, 1997. You can read about that here. The American pilots never went back on strike because they came to an agreement with management, NOT because President Clinton had the power to stop them from striking had they failed to reach an agreement by the end of the 60-day PEB. A President gets 60 days. That's it: nothing more without the agreement of both parties.

A President cannot unilaterally extend a PEB nor can he/she establish a second PEB in order to prevent a group of organized labor from striking under the RLA. You can read the applicable section of the RLA yourself here.

Then, you can read the detailed 11-page legal analysis by a Deputy Assistant General under the first President Bush explaining why the President cannot extend a PEB nor establish a second PEB here: Presidential Authority to Extend Deadline for Submission of an Emergency Board Report Under the Railway Labor Act.

You can read a synopsis of the 1997 American Airlines pilots' episode, written by John Livingood, the current NMB Director of Mediation Services, here.

It is extremely important that you, and every pilot in an American airline pilot union, understand that your claim in this post is not correct. If pilots believe what you said to be true, then the response is, "Well then, what's the point of trying to leverage the RLA? The President will just shut us down."

Again, for clarity, the President cannot prevent a union from striking under the RLA. The President can only delay a strike for 60 days by establishing a PEB.
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Old 12-03-2022, 05:41 AM
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Beat me to it. All Clinton did was interrupt the strike with a PEB.

I can't tell you how many times I have heard on the line "the president will never let us strike".

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Old 12-08-2022, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
I never worked for Valuejet but I know they didn’t have a problem keeping jets on the pavement unlike the airline I do work for now.
Now that’s gold. Any other airline have anywhere close to the amount of landings and takeoffs we have at BUR and MDW? We probably have 95% of the movement at those airports. Were mistakes made? Absolutely. Preventable? Absolutely. Margin for error? Slim.
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