Contract Expectations
11-18-2022, 02:53 PM
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Contract Expectations
On the whole JA thing -
VDT would solve the JA problem. Put it out for voluntary double time prior to assigning JA. That along with double rigs would ensure almost nobody would ever work a day off against their will unless they got stuck at an outstation (it happens).
There should be no concessions or give backs during this contract. This is the one where we make the big gains. Listen to the SWAPA number podcast with the industry analyst where he lays out the current negotiating climate.
Retirement, pay, disability, parking, uniforms, food, hotels, the list goes on. It should all be outstanding or we should be voting no.
It looks like DL is going to get their turn in the barrel soon. I suspect their TA1 is going to be leaps and bounds above anything that we would have achieved on our own. Our timing is actually working to our advantage this time.
VDT would solve the JA problem. Put it out for voluntary double time prior to assigning JA. That along with double rigs would ensure almost nobody would ever work a day off against their will unless they got stuck at an outstation (it happens).
There should be no concessions or give backs during this contract. This is the one where we make the big gains. Listen to the SWAPA number podcast with the industry analyst where he lays out the current negotiating climate.
Retirement, pay, disability, parking, uniforms, food, hotels, the list goes on. It should all be outstanding or we should be voting no.
It looks like DL is going to get their turn in the barrel soon. I suspect their TA1 is going to be leaps and bounds above anything that we would have achieved on our own. Our timing is actually working to our advantage this time.
11-18-2022, 04:58 PM
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I just realized something and I was dead wrong when I said I’d need at least 35% to consider voting yes.
The company showed what it’s willing to pay in the MOU last year. That needs to be the guidance with regards to pay rates.
The company showed what it’s willing to pay in the MOU last year. That needs to be the guidance with regards to pay rates.
11-18-2022, 05:04 PM
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Theres a thread somewhere in this forum about a regional guy making 47K in a one month. Yeah. Our ask is now pretty dang high.
11-19-2022, 06:57 AM
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Glad you see that error. Lol. But yeah 35% was too low.
11-20-2022, 10:29 AM
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Am I the only one that gets more annoyed every time one of the regionals announces a new contract with high pay rates? Only because I feel like the rates that will be presented to us wont even come close to matching it. Hell even a 50% raise for the first couple year guys would still be less than the regional captains are making.
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11-20-2022, 01:02 PM
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11-20-2022, 04:21 PM
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But this discussion is not about Carl.
The question was do we get mad when regionals get big pay raises?
I say rejoice! Good for them. The price for an hour of time at the career destination airlines just went up. Thank you regional pilots for fighting the good fight!
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11-20-2022, 05:02 PM
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Yes, we agree.
But this discussion is not about Carl.
The question was do we get mad when regionals get big pay raises?
I say rejoice! Good for them. The price for an hour of time at the career destination airlines just went up. Thank you regional pilots for fighting the good fight!
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But this discussion is not about Carl.
The question was do we get mad when regionals get big pay raises?
I say rejoice! Good for them. The price for an hour of time at the career destination airlines just went up. Thank you regional pilots for fighting the good fight!
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11-20-2022, 06:48 PM
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Flew with a cappy that thought there is no way we'd get released etc. Had to did into my lew posts to show him we absolutely could and how we need to not give in to anything we dont want. HOLD FAST!
11-20-2022, 07:14 PM
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