Contract Expectations
#41
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One interesting phenomenon I’ve observed and swear by is that the higher the job satisfaction of pilots at a particular company, the lower the A-hole percentage. It seems that the more people are discontent with their employer the more it brings out the undesirable parts of their personality.
My sample size is four airlines and two dozen years in the “biz”. FWIW.
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OK you just reminded me of one of the funniest things I ever heard (who knows, might have even been you).
Had a guy at ACA who dipped and used his soda can as the spittoon. Did exactly as you, except the FO thought it was soda. Thought he’d one-up the CA and drink the soda, not knowing it was spit. Very brief but no doubt violent reaction to the swallow, they made the approach otherwise uneventfully. I guess they can both laugh about it now, but I’m curious to see how the ride to the hotel went.
Had a guy at ACA who dipped and used his soda can as the spittoon. Did exactly as you, except the FO thought it was soda. Thought he’d one-up the CA and drink the soda, not knowing it was spit. Very brief but no doubt violent reaction to the swallow, they made the approach otherwise uneventfully. I guess they can both laugh about it now, but I’m curious to see how the ride to the hotel went.
There was also the can of soda that spilled on the Airbus center pedestal that fried it.
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https://youtu.be/ez21oSqvGOI
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That happened about 9 minutes into the movie “Fate is the Hunter” starring Glenn Ford and Suzanne Pleshette.
https://youtu.be/ez21oSqvGOI
https://youtu.be/ez21oSqvGOI
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Glad you enjoyed it!
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Not really military bashing, just some of the egos that emit is nauseating. I’m super pro military (did 8 yrs myself), but man, in the the 121 world it takes a little more “us” and less “me” mentality. Maybe I’m easier than most, but I’ve had no problems with anyone, military or otherwise. Sure a few cases of arrogance and a sprinkle of entitlement from the other direction, but nothing that couldn’t be fixed with a roll of the eyes.
But some of the stories I read in here….if they are true….some guys think way too highly of themselves.
But some of the stories I read in here….if they are true….some guys think way too highly of themselves.
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I'm a no voter on anything short of 35% snap up rate or the highest 757 rate of Delta or United - whichever is higher, and subsequent raises tied to the inflation rate. Oh, and the assumption is at min pay guarantee - not 108 TFP.
Full retro is assumed. Anything short of full retro is an automatic no. BTW... retro needs to include rate change as well as NEC and PS monies with no earnings cap like last time.
LTD/STD fixed to be industry leading and company covered. None of this imputed tax BS.
Full government rate per diem - not a percentage. Anything short of that, and the company needs to provide crew meals. The Big 3 get crew meals and per diem.
NEC brought up to industry standard and matched with the highest percentage offered at either Delta, United or American.
These are my non-negotiable items. Fall short of any of those, I won't bother even reading the rest before I vote NO. There are plenty of other improvements needed, but these are the meat and potatoes for me.
For those who think this is unreasonable, look at the pay at regionals and their raise percentages. Then look at this website and plug in your pay: https://www.usinflationcalculator.com and then tell me it's unreasonable.
Remember last time, the union laid out how the company could easily afford to cover the entire Platform and remain highly profitable. The company agreed with the union.... they just didn't want to pay that. Well, despite the price of electricity going up substantially, I can still afford to pay my electric bill and save money. While it doesn't mean I want to pay that much, I know if I don't, I'll be sitting in a dark house with no AC. #FUPM
Full retro is assumed. Anything short of full retro is an automatic no. BTW... retro needs to include rate change as well as NEC and PS monies with no earnings cap like last time.
LTD/STD fixed to be industry leading and company covered. None of this imputed tax BS.
Full government rate per diem - not a percentage. Anything short of that, and the company needs to provide crew meals. The Big 3 get crew meals and per diem.
NEC brought up to industry standard and matched with the highest percentage offered at either Delta, United or American.
These are my non-negotiable items. Fall short of any of those, I won't bother even reading the rest before I vote NO. There are plenty of other improvements needed, but these are the meat and potatoes for me.
For those who think this is unreasonable, look at the pay at regionals and their raise percentages. Then look at this website and plug in your pay: https://www.usinflationcalculator.com and then tell me it's unreasonable.
Remember last time, the union laid out how the company could easily afford to cover the entire Platform and remain highly profitable. The company agreed with the union.... they just didn't want to pay that. Well, despite the price of electricity going up substantially, I can still afford to pay my electric bill and save money. While it doesn't mean I want to pay that much, I know if I don't, I'll be sitting in a dark house with no AC. #FUPM
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