Lewbronski

Mesa dang near has better rates than us.

And their first year FO rates are better than ours.

Mesa.

Think about that.

Hobbit64

BUT Culture!

Never Furloughed! (2x threatened to do it)

CULTURE!

WHACKMASTER

F___ this. My expectations just got even higher. Keep dragging it out Carl. I grow hungrier for a home run contract by the day.

MudhammedCJ

I just grow hungrier. No food all day today on an 11.5 hour day. Including at the hotel at check in. And none last night in the hotel either. FTS.

Caveman

You obviously don’t understand the sacrifices our entire Family is making.

When you land 13R in BigD at 1030 on a Tuesday morning, look right, and when you see 18 cars in the Death Star parking lot, you may have to dig deeper to see the Big Picture your missing.

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flyguy81

You’re an idiot if you think anyone is quitting the big 4 to go to back to a regional.

Fly4FunAA

Facts. I don’t understand why everyone at a major is trippin over a regional. Our pay will eventually rise. Leaving any major to go back to a regional is absolute career suicide

Lewbronski

Thats not the point. My point, at least, is that, right now, Mesa - MESA!!! - is nearly at parity with us in terms of rates. Let that sink in: Mesa, the bottom feeder of bottom feeder airlines run by the notoriously shady and pilot-hating Jonathan Ornstein has seen fit to offer their pilots rates that are competitive with us, a “major” airline with a “major league” union to advocate for us.

Meanwhile, over at the airline of “luv” and the “golden rule” with the “hardcore” SWAPA “2.0,” we dither. SWAPA can’t get its act together enough to have even filed mediation in the last two-plus years of negotiations nor take any significant action to compel the company to respond in a positive fashion to our contractual “demands.” But, boy, are those pickets intimidating! We are in danger of being lapped by regional airlines while we happily stagnate with our thumb planted warmly in our backside.

Stitches

There’s an argument to be made to file for mediation at our current point in negotiations, and the latest SWAPA negotiating update made clear that debate is occurring now by the board of directors. However…. The idea that we should have filed for mediation at some point over the past two years, when load factors were 5-50%, and the company was blowing through $Billions a quarter of government money and still showing a loss is just asinine.

You can demand a contract all you want but that doesn’t mean you’ll get one. Personally I’d much rather ink a deal a year from now when the company can’t use Covid as an excuse not to pay us then today and be the first airline out of the gate and watch all the other legacies sign more lucrative deals in our wake.