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Old 08-13-2022, 08:46 AM
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Reason #1273 why people increasingly elect to telecommute, work from home, or have left the workplace altogether. Who needs it when you can avoid words being used (twisted?) by angry thought-police looking to weaponize today's woke corporate policies. Even French President Macron said the US had gone too woke. LOL

Safe space echo chambers, anonymous forums (like this), social media, polarizing opinion-based reporting on cable 'news', whatever,...If there was ever a calculated plan to isolate and divide us, it couldn't get any better than this.

Stasi 2.0?

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Old 08-13-2022, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Go reread my post. Or maybe you actually did understand it and are just twisting it to suit your attempt at hyperbole.
dude at least have the balls to standby what you believe.
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Old 08-13-2022, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
And what’s with the Epoch Times? Aren’t they anti-communist/anti CCP and banned by the communist Chinese government?

If Al Jazeera reported the same story would it be less truthful? What if USA Today reported it?

Are all you commenters that are downplaying the source in agreement that this article has no merit?

The New York Times has history of Holocaust denial. What if they published it?
The difference is that Epoch Times is literally published by a religious cult, and the others are not. Not even Al Jazeera.
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Old 08-13-2022, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cleared4appch
I don’t know much about the Epoch Times, but, who the hell exactly is a ‘credible’ news source these days? I’m listening.
I'm kind of partial to the BBC and the WSJ. They both seem pretty fair and impartial. But yeah, most of the media in this country has exchanged journalism for entertainment and it's garbage. Even the Weather Channel no longer tells you the weather.

Oh, and usually the ones complaining the loudest about woke culture and getting written up at work are the ones who wear their politics on their sleeve and push the limits of decency trying to sway others to their beliefs. Maybe just check your opinions on things at the door and do your job. Don't be a jerk. You won't have any problems.
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Old 08-13-2022, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Zard
I’m doing this from now on.
most of the time you have to sit in the back room if you board after the FAs. It seems the notion of boring from the rear of the van is lost on most people, so I usually find myself having to crawl to the back over their crap
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Old 08-13-2022, 09:30 AM
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Epoch times.....lol. Is OAN going to be sited next?
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Old 08-13-2022, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
Reason #1273 why people increasingly elect to telecommute, work from home, or have left the workplace altogether. Who needs it when you can avoid words being used (twisted?) by angry thought-police looking to weaponize today's woke corporate policies. Even French President Macron said the US had gone too woke. LOL

Safe space echo chambers, anonymous forums (like this), social media, polarizing opinion-based reporting on cable 'news', whatever,...If there was ever a calculated plan to isolate and divide us, it couldn't get any better than this.

Stasi 2.0?
The government isn’t arresting many people these days for speaking their mind.

To me, a lot of this stems from the power of corporations to regulate our speech via their social media policies and so on. While a corporation cannot have us thrown in jail for violating their policies on what can and cannot be said, they can cut us off from our livelihood. That gives them a lot of power over typical citizens who are not financially independent. In that way, I’d say most citizens don’t truly have a right to free speech in America.

I’d be willing to bet that most of us wouldn’t be as ****ed off about all the wokeness if it didn’t threaten our ability to pay the mortgage and put food on the table.

On the other hand, if I own a corporation and pay people an income to represent my company, is it unreasonable to have the right to fire them if they say or do things that, if associated with my business, threaten to harm my bottom line? Should I, as the owner of a company, be forced by the government to tolerate an employee who makes statements that are antithetical to my corporation’s values?

Should Congress act to create legislation to protect free speech not only from the threat of imprisonment but also from the threat of being fired?
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Old 08-13-2022, 10:47 AM
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What about utilizing Pro Standards and settling issues like adults instead of submitting an IR and creating a disciplinary fact finding mission because you were an offended flight attendant because your captain offered his hand getting out of the van, or didn’t come down to the bar, or told you to get off your phone during the briefing (all of these are real examples).

Pilots are being written up at an alarming rate, encouraged by specific FA leadership. Careers are being jeopardized over stupid stuff. Families are being affected.

This MUST END.

No wonder the pilot group wants separate hotels and don’t come down anymore. I know many FA’s that completely understand.
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Old 08-13-2022, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
The government isn’t arresting many people these days for speaking their mind.

To me, a lot of this stems from the power of corporations to regulate our speech via their social media policies and so on. While a corporation cannot have us thrown in jail for violating their policies on what can and cannot be said, they can cut us off from our livelihood. That gives them a lot of power over typical citizens who are not financially independent. In that way, I’d say most citizens don’t truly have a right to free speech in America.

I’d be willing to bet that most of us wouldn’t be as ****ed off about all the wokeness if it didn’t threaten our ability to pay the mortgage and put food on the table.

On the other hand, if I own a corporation and pay people an income to represent my company, is it unreasonable to have the right to fire them if they say or do things that, if associated with my business, threaten to harm my bottom line? Should I, as the owner of a company, be forced by the government to tolerate an employee who makes statements that are antithetical to my corporation’s values?

Should Congress act to create legislation to protect free speech not only from the threat of imprisonment but also from the threat of being fired?
There's a difference Lew... first of all, the corporation doesn't own us. On the other hand, many of us are shareholders, so it could be said that we own parts of this corporation. Secondly, we are not a social justice company. We are an airline. Our purpose is literally to "Connect People to what’s important in their lives through friendly, reliable, and low-cost air travel." I think the company nailed it 2 years ago when they said no BLM or political statements allowed on uniforms. As a company, we should be totally apolitical and make a very loud voice that we stay away from any controversial, divisive and partisan topics and initiatives that foster division. When people ask why... because as an employer, we espouse true inclusiveness and diversity but celebrate and champion what brings us together, and that's "Connecting People to what’s important in their lives through friendly, reliable, and low-cost air travel" and leave it at that. Instead, we are championing and promoting the left-wing agenda and alienating a rather large chunk of our employees.

Instead of focusing on what brings us together, we focus on and celebrate what's actually separating us (race, sex, sexual preference/orientation, political agenda, etc.) This company has a knack for snatching defeat out of jaws of victory in so many ways.
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Old 08-13-2022, 11:27 AM
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Does anyone have any specific examples? Seems like it's fear-mongering to me.
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