Epoch Times article... oh boy
08-16-2022, 06:30 AM
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And even if that was the case, if your reaction to that is to make you sad, you might be part of the problem.
08-16-2022, 07:04 AM
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You and I agree totally on the second part.
I guess my poorly made point is: There are a great many people espousing lofty opinions (learned in a college classroom) when they’ve never actually put their beliefs into action.
08-16-2022, 07:27 AM
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08-16-2022, 08:12 AM
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Hell yeah!
This was a couple years back. There was a kid who came up to the cockpit to say hello, and as it turned out, he was graduating high school and was interested in aviation. I usually don't mention people's race, but because it has a bearing on his discussion, he was black. It was a terminating plane and we were done. I stayed on the plane for him as he had a lot of questions. Everyone had already left the plane, so did the captain, I ended up shutting it down and then I walked with this kid to his parents at baggage claim. I gave him my business card along with all my contact info. We are exchanging emails regularly. He is a CFI now building time and working on finishing up his degree. Do I want to give him a handout? HELL NO! This kid has earned every last rating, and hasn't failed a single stage check, or a checkride so far. I have zero doubt he will end up flying for a major airline. What I DON'T want for him is to have a lingering question over his head on whether he's really earned it, or he got it only because he's black. This kid is a driven individual with a lot of integrity and a strong drive and yet is very humble. This kid will get hired on his merits alone. Why make him feel like he's getting hired because he's a minority as opposed to squarely based on his merits especially when he's checking off every box like every other up and coming pilot who doesn't happen to be a minority? Why do this to him? This kid has every right to be proud of his accomplishments without them being tarnished by some wokeist's virtue signaling.
Another example, a few weeks back, I've taken up another kid up in my airplane. For the sake of this conversation, he also happened to be black. A family member introduced him to me. He wanted a ride and he asked if he could wash my plane in exchange. I told him sure, but instead of grabbing a chair and watching him wash my plane, I showed him how I wash my plane, and we did it together in half the time. We talked about the plane, career paths, and then when we were done, we flew for the proverbial $100 burger about an hour flight away and I had him fly most of the way there. We had our $100 burger, and coming back same thing, I had him fly again. The kid has a lot of talent and I pointed him out to D225 and United Aviate programs. He's currently waiting to hear, but I've already showed him a number of various paths if those don't end up being right for him. Again, this kid has a friend and an ally in me, and his race has as much to do with it as his eyes color.
There's yet another kid... a white kid, but this kid comes from a poor family. He's currently pumping fuel at the FBO. He's working on his ratings. Do we ignore him because he's white and supposedly "white-privileged?"
Yep, agreed. And again, there's a world of difference between helping and mentoring someone, and giving them a free pass or preference squarely based on their race, gender, etc.
This was a couple years back. There was a kid who came up to the cockpit to say hello, and as it turned out, he was graduating high school and was interested in aviation. I usually don't mention people's race, but because it has a bearing on his discussion, he was black. It was a terminating plane and we were done. I stayed on the plane for him as he had a lot of questions. Everyone had already left the plane, so did the captain, I ended up shutting it down and then I walked with this kid to his parents at baggage claim. I gave him my business card along with all my contact info. We are exchanging emails regularly. He is a CFI now building time and working on finishing up his degree. Do I want to give him a handout? HELL NO! This kid has earned every last rating, and hasn't failed a single stage check, or a checkride so far. I have zero doubt he will end up flying for a major airline. What I DON'T want for him is to have a lingering question over his head on whether he's really earned it, or he got it only because he's black. This kid is a driven individual with a lot of integrity and a strong drive and yet is very humble. This kid will get hired on his merits alone. Why make him feel like he's getting hired because he's a minority as opposed to squarely based on his merits especially when he's checking off every box like every other up and coming pilot who doesn't happen to be a minority? Why do this to him? This kid has every right to be proud of his accomplishments without them being tarnished by some wokeist's virtue signaling.
Another example, a few weeks back, I've taken up another kid up in my airplane. For the sake of this conversation, he also happened to be black. A family member introduced him to me. He wanted a ride and he asked if he could wash my plane in exchange. I told him sure, but instead of grabbing a chair and watching him wash my plane, I showed him how I wash my plane, and we did it together in half the time. We talked about the plane, career paths, and then when we were done, we flew for the proverbial $100 burger about an hour flight away and I had him fly most of the way there. We had our $100 burger, and coming back same thing, I had him fly again. The kid has a lot of talent and I pointed him out to D225 and United Aviate programs. He's currently waiting to hear, but I've already showed him a number of various paths if those don't end up being right for him. Again, this kid has a friend and an ally in me, and his race has as much to do with it as his eyes color.
There's yet another kid... a white kid, but this kid comes from a poor family. He's currently pumping fuel at the FBO. He's working on his ratings. Do we ignore him because he's white and supposedly "white-privileged?"
Yep, agreed. And again, there's a world of difference between helping and mentoring someone, and giving them a free pass or preference squarely based on their race, gender, etc.
08-16-2022, 09:48 AM
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Hell yeah!
This was a couple years back. There was a kid who came up to the cockpit to say hello, and as it turned out, he was graduating high school and was interested in aviation. I usually don't mention people's race, but because it has a bearing on his discussion, he was black. It was a terminating plane and we were done. I stayed on the plane for him as he had a lot of questions. Everyone had already left the plane, so did the captain, I ended up shutting it down and then I walked with this kid to his parents at baggage claim. I gave him my business card along with all my contact info. We are exchanging emails regularly. He is a CFI now building time and working on finishing up his degree. Do I want to give him a handout? HELL NO! This kid has earned every last rating, and hasn't failed a single stage check, or a checkride so far. I have zero doubt he will end up flying for a major airline. What I DON'T want for him is to have a lingering question over his head on whether he's really earned it, or he got it only because he's black. This kid is a driven individual with a lot of integrity and a strong drive and yet is very humble. This kid will get hired on his merits alone. Why make him feel like he's getting hired because he's a minority as opposed to squarely based on his merits especially when he's checking off every box like every other up and coming pilot who doesn't happen to be a minority? Why do this to him? This kid has every right to be proud of his accomplishments without them being tarnished by some wokeist's virtue signaling.
Another example, a few weeks back, I've taken up another kid up in my airplane. For the sake of this conversation, he also happened to be black. A family member introduced him to me. He wanted a ride and he asked if he could wash my plane in exchange. I told him sure, but instead of grabbing a chair and watching him wash my plane, I showed him how I wash my plane, and we did it together in half the time. We talked about the plane, career paths, and then when we were done, we flew for the proverbial $100 burger about an hour flight away and I had him fly most of the way there. We had our $100 burger, and coming back same thing, I had him fly again. The kid has a lot of talent and I pointed him out to D225 and United Aviate programs. He's currently waiting to hear, but I've already showed him a number of various paths if those don't end up being right for him. Again, this kid has a friend and an ally in me, and his race has as much to do with it as his eyes color.
There's yet another kid... a white kid, but this kid comes from a poor family. He's currently pumping fuel at the FBO. He's working on his ratings. Do we ignore him because he's white and supposedly "white-privileged?"
Yep, agreed. And again, there's a world of difference between helping and mentoring someone, and giving them a free pass or preference squarely based on their race, gender, etc.
This was a couple years back. There was a kid who came up to the cockpit to say hello, and as it turned out, he was graduating high school and was interested in aviation. I usually don't mention people's race, but because it has a bearing on his discussion, he was black. It was a terminating plane and we were done. I stayed on the plane for him as he had a lot of questions. Everyone had already left the plane, so did the captain, I ended up shutting it down and then I walked with this kid to his parents at baggage claim. I gave him my business card along with all my contact info. We are exchanging emails regularly. He is a CFI now building time and working on finishing up his degree. Do I want to give him a handout? HELL NO! This kid has earned every last rating, and hasn't failed a single stage check, or a checkride so far. I have zero doubt he will end up flying for a major airline. What I DON'T want for him is to have a lingering question over his head on whether he's really earned it, or he got it only because he's black. This kid is a driven individual with a lot of integrity and a strong drive and yet is very humble. This kid will get hired on his merits alone. Why make him feel like he's getting hired because he's a minority as opposed to squarely based on his merits especially when he's checking off every box like every other up and coming pilot who doesn't happen to be a minority? Why do this to him? This kid has every right to be proud of his accomplishments without them being tarnished by some wokeist's virtue signaling.
Another example, a few weeks back, I've taken up another kid up in my airplane. For the sake of this conversation, he also happened to be black. A family member introduced him to me. He wanted a ride and he asked if he could wash my plane in exchange. I told him sure, but instead of grabbing a chair and watching him wash my plane, I showed him how I wash my plane, and we did it together in half the time. We talked about the plane, career paths, and then when we were done, we flew for the proverbial $100 burger about an hour flight away and I had him fly most of the way there. We had our $100 burger, and coming back same thing, I had him fly again. The kid has a lot of talent and I pointed him out to D225 and United Aviate programs. He's currently waiting to hear, but I've already showed him a number of various paths if those don't end up being right for him. Again, this kid has a friend and an ally in me, and his race has as much to do with it as his eyes color.
There's yet another kid... a white kid, but this kid comes from a poor family. He's currently pumping fuel at the FBO. He's working on his ratings. Do we ignore him because he's white and supposedly "white-privileged?"
Yep, agreed. And again, there's a world of difference between helping and mentoring someone, and giving them a free pass or preference squarely based on their race, gender, etc.
08-16-2022, 11:16 AM
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Non scientific search of the swapa Twitter feed for new hire class pictures shows since February: 316 total pilots/ 19 women/ 19 minorities. Can’t tell for certain gender identification/protected status but looks like there isn’t much change to the hiring stats. 88% white males. Again, small sample and non scientific.
08-16-2022, 11:53 AM
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For someone who once had a show called politically incorrect, I’d hardly use him as a litmus test for where to draw the line for wokeness. He is a progressive, atheist, and big supporter of liberal values. He’s certainly more “objective” than anyone on fauxnews.
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