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Old 07-09-2022, 02:15 PM
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Go to "Negotiations" on the swapa website and the article is called "What happens in the negotiating room" from June 15
Found it. Thanks. Absolutely unbelievable that a fellow seniority list pilot is directly negotiating against us and is allowed to stay on the seniority list.

Have we no recourse?!
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Old 07-09-2022, 02:33 PM
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Found it. Thanks. Absolutely unbelievable that a fellow seniority list pilot is directly negotiating against us and is allowed to stay on the seniority list.

Have we no recourse?!
Yes. Changing jobs or retirement. Because the cozy relationship between SNAPA, management pilots, and management is NEVER going to change here. It's baked in.
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Old 07-09-2022, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Found it. Thanks. Absolutely unbelievable that a fellow seniority list pilot is directly negotiating against us and is allowed to stay on the seniority list.

Have we no recourse?!
Check out MP1C/31
he's getting his CA rate to go negotiate against us. Unbelievable is right.
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Old 07-09-2022, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
Check out MP1C/31
he's getting his CA rate to go negotiate against us. Unbelievable is right.
Simply unreal. He’s been added to my list of “avoid, don’t ever help, don’t ever do business with”.
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Old 07-09-2022, 03:49 PM
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I bet he's making friends across the pilot group.. oh wait he doesn't give a damn.
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Old 07-09-2022, 04:19 PM
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Ok so my next question is this—how does one become a member of the company’s team? As an Assistant Chief I understand they are already a company management person, but is it an assignment or a volunteer position?

I still don’t understand how CK is ethically able to be in the position he is in…can’t SWAPA call foul on that play? How in any form is it considered negotiating in good faith?
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Old 07-09-2022, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Ok so my next question is this—how does one become a member of the company’s team? As an Assistant Chief I understand they are already a company management person, but is it an assignment or a volunteer position?

I still don’t understand how CK is ethically able to be in the position he is in…can’t SWAPA call foul on that play? How in any form is it considered negotiating in good faith?

The real question in my mind is why hasn’t the BOD passed a resolution (or passed in the bylaws) to prevent someone in the future from doing the same thing again……….To me that says everything.
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Old 07-10-2022, 05:27 AM
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The real question in my mind is why hasn’t the BOD passed a resolution (or passed in the bylaws) to prevent someone in the future from doing the same thing again……….To me that says everything.
what relevance would new bylaws have on someone once they are retired or no longer working for the union?
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Old 07-10-2022, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
what relevance would new bylaws have on someone once they are retired or no longer working for the union?

A non-compete / Non-disclosure agreement has no bearing on if you’re retired or not.

If you know dirty laundry, you shouldn’t be able to sit on the other side of the table for a period of time. In my view, of course.
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