Rumors from the training center
06-13-2022, 06:28 PM
#21
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Interesting to remember the last contract here. It wasn't SWAPA that was gunning for the 35% pay increase for the 1st year guys. It was the company because they were losing people to Delta and they wanted to retain people. The bean counters will have empty airplanes without seriously jacking up the rates and my threshold for a yes vote is getting higher by the day.
Keep stalling, Carl.
Keep stalling, Carl.
Heck, it’d take a 55% pay raise to bring our 12-year captain rate up to Envoy’s new check airman rate of $427/hr.
And inflation isn’t slowing down any time soon it seems. A 40% first year of the contract initial pay raise would likely be a no vote for me depending on how the rest of the contract looked.
06-19-2022, 02:39 AM
#24
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No, our business model keeps us profitable.....in spite of the failings of middle management.
Single type, single class, point to point network. That's what people write business books about and other airlines attempt to copy, not our VPs who let us run out of coffee cups or deicing fluid or sim instructors.
Single type, single class, point to point network. That's what people write business books about and other airlines attempt to copy, not our VPs who let us run out of coffee cups or deicing fluid or sim instructors.
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06-19-2022, 04:39 AM
#25
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No, our business model keeps us profitable.....in spite of the failings of middle management.
Single type, single class, point to point network. That's what people write business books about and other airlines attempt to copy, not our VPs who let us run out of coffee cups or deicing fluid or sim instructors.
Single type, single class, point to point network. That's what people write business books about and other airlines attempt to copy, not our VPs who let us run out of coffee cups or deicing fluid or sim instructors.
06-19-2022, 05:30 AM
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This says it all . We are the most productive pilots, we should be paid as such. Instead we are called plumbers by our CEO and now chairman of the board ( the puppet master )
06-19-2022, 05:32 AM
#28
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That’s like congratulating the current politicians for our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
The only way that argument makes sense is as pro management propaganda, cause there ain’t no “truth” there.
06-19-2022, 05:35 AM
#29
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Here, here!
But don’t sell us short….. highest paid airline pilots over a career should be our price. After all, we fly more than anyone else and that makes the company the most profitable airline around.
06-19-2022, 05:47 AM
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