SWA’s 10 year upgrade is a thing of the past
05-26-2022, 08:20 AM
#31
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That glitch at DLA was fixed, they’ll honor the bid after some time as an FO but no NHs are getting that and it was only JFK…UAL may be slightly quicker then AA but it’s not every NB base. AA is about 2 years at LAX/CA but I had trip with a 12 year MIA CA still pulling LC reserve. I left after 6 months because of various reasons but one was because the rumors on here and reality aren’t usually close.
Yeah it's not everywhere yeah it's not every airframe. But don't kid yourself that American is anywhere Close to upgrade times at UAL or DAL. Or somehow justify the 8 year to be a plug ANYWHERE at SWA as somehow better.
I'm not at Delta or swa. i have no dog in the fight I'm just here to point out facts.
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05-26-2022, 08:36 AM
#32
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It wasn't a glitch, the latest AE also had more 2021 upgrades. Hell one of my buddies hired march 2020 (one of the last classes precovid) is 78% 737nyc
Yeah it's not everywhere yeah it's not every airframe. But don't kid yourself that American is anywhere Close to upgrade times at UAL or DAL. Or somehow justify the 8 year to be a plug ANYWHERE at SWA as somehow better.
I'm not at Delta or swa. i have no dog in the fight I'm just here to point out facts.
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Yeah it's not everywhere yeah it's not every airframe. But don't kid yourself that American is anywhere Close to upgrade times at UAL or DAL. Or somehow justify the 8 year to be a plug ANYWHERE at SWA as somehow better.
I'm not at Delta or swa. i have no dog in the fight I'm just here to point out facts.
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05-26-2022, 08:49 AM
#33
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It wasn't a glitch, the latest AE also had more 2021 upgrades. Hell one of my buddies hired march 2020 (one of the last classes precovid) is 78% 737nyc
Yeah it's not everywhere yeah it's not every airframe. But don't kid yourself that American is anywhere Close to upgrade times at UAL or DAL. Or somehow justify the 8 year to be a plug ANYWHERE at SWA as somehow better.
I'm not at Delta or swa. i have no dog in the fight I'm just here to point out facts.
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Yeah it's not everywhere yeah it's not every airframe. But don't kid yourself that American is anywhere Close to upgrade times at UAL or DAL. Or somehow justify the 8 year to be a plug ANYWHERE at SWA as somehow better.
I'm not at Delta or swa. i have no dog in the fight I'm just here to point out facts.
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05-26-2022, 09:00 AM
#34
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
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It wasn't a glitch, the latest AE also had more 2021 upgrades. Hell one of my buddies hired march 2020 (one of the last classes precovid) is 78% 737nyc
Yeah it's not everywhere yeah it's not every airframe. But don't kid yourself that American is anywhere Close to upgrade times at UAL or DAL. Or somehow justify the 8 year to be a plug ANYWHERE at SWA as somehow better.
I'm not at Delta or swa. i have no dog in the fight I'm just here to point out facts.
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Yeah it's not everywhere yeah it's not every airframe. But don't kid yourself that American is anywhere Close to upgrade times at UAL or DAL. Or somehow justify the 8 year to be a plug ANYWHERE at SWA as somehow better.
I'm not at Delta or swa. i have no dog in the fight I'm just here to point out facts.
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05-27-2022, 03:49 AM
#35
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,126
[QUOTE=elmetal;3429897]??? Delta has 2021 hires in left seat of 737 NYC. United has upgrades under 2 years...
American is by far the longest upgrade of the 3 right now.
How long you'll be sitting reserve is a different story.
The AA upgrades are a but longer due to the fleet downsizing. Lots of 75/76/330 dudes and dudettes went back to NBs because they didn't want to move/commute/go down in seniority etc. There's 1500-3000 #s on the top of some of the NBs because of it. It's fine, I'd have done the same thing if I was them. It's just added a little bump to the upgrades. 3-4 yrs is still amazing compared to what's it's been in the past. And of course, those same folks will be retiring in the next 3-5 anyway so it'll come down again. Good times either way. Now...so, section 6 right?
American is by far the longest upgrade of the 3 right now.
How long you'll be sitting reserve is a different story.
The AA upgrades are a but longer due to the fleet downsizing. Lots of 75/76/330 dudes and dudettes went back to NBs because they didn't want to move/commute/go down in seniority etc. There's 1500-3000 #s on the top of some of the NBs because of it. It's fine, I'd have done the same thing if I was them. It's just added a little bump to the upgrades. 3-4 yrs is still amazing compared to what's it's been in the past. And of course, those same folks will be retiring in the next 3-5 anyway so it'll come down again. Good times either way. Now...so, section 6 right?
05-27-2022, 04:08 AM
#36
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,803
You may not be required to do training during your vacation month, but if you expertly bid your vaca month for days off, that makes you PRIME for scheduling to drop training right in the middle of the non-working weeks you THOUGHT you were going to have off. This year they moved my training up 5 months just to drop it into my carefully planned vacation month.
5 and 20, the rest is nonsense.
5 and 20, the rest is nonsense.
Why the hell are we subjecting ourselves to more jeopardy events in our careers than we have to?
05-27-2022, 06:15 AM
#37
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 252
Mine was moved from July to April this year. April worked better for me anyway, but damn.
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