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Old 05-22-2022, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
FedEx is currently flight testing autonomous MD11s in Casper Wyoming. FAA clearly treats cargo differently. Keep that in mind…
As a FedEx MD-11 pilot, this is news to me.
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Old 05-22-2022, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
As a FedEx MD-11 pilot, this is news to me.
Cheyenne, not Casper. I doubt FedEx is involved directly so not surprised you'd know. But according to an ALPA chat, autonmous flight is the goal of these FAA tests and FedEx lent the airplane to be used. 2nd hand info I have, so take it for what it's worth.
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Old 05-22-2022, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
Cheyenne, not Casper. I doubt FedEx is involved directly so not surprised you'd know. But according to an ALPA chat, autonmous flight is the goal of these FAA tests and FedEx lent the airplane to be used. 2nd hand info I have, so take it for what it's worth.
2nd hand…though, Smart keeping the data out of the sole clutches of commercial entities who are only willing to share the success cases.
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Old 05-23-2022, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
I just flew with a guy. One of his classmates just quit to go back to corporate flying.
Not sure if I’m the guy your FO was talking about but I was a 12/14/2021 hire and returned to my previous corporate gig in April. Loved all the crews I flew with in my short time at Southwest but I’m older than average new hire and after getting jerked around by Southwest. (among other things…had two do a second checkride after I passed the first time because it turns out my examiner wasn’t qualified to do a type rating; passed again the second time, had pay issues never resolved after repeatedly told by mgt “we’ll take care of this”, then an assistant chief pilot who tried to treat me like a child on a commute issue after my car broke down and my commute flight canceled same day and after I worked things out with scheduling, I just went with the “life is too short to be unhappy” counsel). I don’t think the asst. chief was expecting a probie to tell him…” I’m done with Southwest’s empty promises, I quit”. I must admit it was very therapeutic to tell him that but I’ll also admit it was tough to walk away after going through all the training and thinking of all the incredible people and crews I met and highly respect.

My story is unique and my corporate job is one of those that are in the top 10% in my opinion. Everyone has to make their own decisions based on their unique circumstances. I truly wish and want the best to all my buddies still at Southwest. I hope y’all get an awesome contract. I made clear in my resignation letter that I am optimistic for Southwest but management needs to get their act together in these unprecedented times (pilot shortage).

That’s my .02. I just wanted you all to hear from the source and not just a rumor.
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Old 05-24-2022, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
Cheyenne, not Casper. I doubt FedEx is involved directly so not surprised you'd know. But according to an ALPA chat, autonmous flight is the goal of these FAA tests and FedEx lent the airplane to be used. 2nd hand info I have, so take it for what it's worth.
What? If it was truly testing pilotless aircraft (I'm sure it wasn't) then of course Fedex was involved. You really think the FAA has personnel qualified to fly the MD11? It's not a 737. And I doubt Fedex ever "loans" an active aircraft to anyone ever.
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Old 05-24-2022, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by autobrake3
not sure if i’m the guy your fo was talking about but i was a 12/14/2021 hire and returned to my previous corporate gig in april. Loved all the crews i flew with in my short time at southwest but i’m older than average new hire and after getting jerked around by southwest. (among other things…had two do a second checkride after i passed the first time because it turns out my examiner wasn’t qualified to do a type rating; passed again the second time, had pay issues never resolved after repeatedly told by mgt “we’ll take care of this”, then an assistant chief pilot who tried to treat me like a child on a commute issue after my car broke down and my commute flight canceled same day and after i worked things out with scheduling, i just went with the “life is too short to be unhappy” counsel). I don’t think the asst. Chief was expecting a probie to tell him…” i’m done with southwest’s empty promises, i quit”. I must admit it was very therapeutic to tell him that but i’ll also admit it was tough to walk away after going through all the training and thinking of all the incredible people and crews i met and highly respect.

My story is unique and my corporate job is one of those that are in the top 10% in my opinion. Everyone has to make their own decisions based on their unique circumstances. I truly wish and want the best to all my buddies still at southwest. I hope y’all get an awesome contract. I made clear in my resignation letter that i am optimistic for southwest but management needs to get their act together in these unprecedented times (pilot shortage).

That’s my .02. I just wanted you all to hear from the source and not just a rumor.
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Old 05-25-2022, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Autobrake3
Not sure if I’m the guy your FO was talking about but I was a 12/14/2021 hire and returned to my previous corporate gig in April. Loved all the crews I flew with in my short time at Southwest but I’m older than average new hire and after getting jerked around by Southwest. (among other things…had two do a second checkride after I passed the first time because it turns out my examiner wasn’t qualified to do a type rating; passed again the second time, had pay issues never resolved after repeatedly told by mgt “we’ll take care of this”, then an assistant chief pilot who tried to treat me like a child on a commute issue after my car broke down and my commute flight canceled same day and after I worked things out with scheduling, I just went with the “life is too short to be unhappy” counsel). I don’t think the asst. chief was expecting a probie to tell him…” I’m done with Southwest’s empty promises, I quit”. I must admit it was very therapeutic to tell him that but I’ll also admit it was tough to walk away after going through all the training and thinking of all the incredible people and crews I met and highly respect.

My story is unique and my corporate job is one of those that are in the top 10% in my opinion. Everyone has to make their own decisions based on their unique circumstances. I truly wish and want the best to all my buddies still at Southwest. I hope y’all get an awesome contract. I made clear in my resignation letter that I am optimistic for Southwest but management needs to get their act together in these unprecedented times (pilot shortage).

That’s my .02. I just wanted you all to hear from the source and not just a rumor.
Didn’t I read about this checkride incident in a SWAPA email somewhere?

Best wishes to you.
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Old 05-25-2022, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Didn’t I read about this checkride incident in a SWAPA email somewhere?

Best wishes to you.
Yes you did. It was a can of worms for the training had a bunch of pilots that had to come back to DAL and redo the checkride. I am sure the FAA was not to happy
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I agree , best of wishes to him
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Old 05-25-2022, 08:26 AM
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Wow. Best wishes. I’m sorry your experience was garbage, but good for you for standing up for yourself and having the option to head back to a better gig.

Never burn bridges you might need to re-cross later, kids!
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Old 05-25-2022, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by oldboyroy
I have to admit, if I have to apologize to another customer this summer…I might hit submit on a couple Cargo apps. The only thing keeping me here now is the unstable economy and volatile markets. There has to be another FO that feels the same, this is not the same place it was prior to the MAX incident. I’m getting educated about my decisions…it’s been embarrassing with the meltdowns and this summer will be the same. Never thought I would be saying this.
The problem is you're talking to customers. I stopped doing that when I finally realized the company doesn't give a damn about me, so why should I care about the customers? I'm just a plumber earning a paycheck. If the Bob's want me to do a meet and greet in between turns then they can pay me to do it.
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