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Old 05-03-2022, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Laser focused, and within one standard deviation.
And in the Ballpark

We could keep this going for a while I'm thinking
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:07 PM
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Okay, don’t forget about chasing the premium and certainly let’s take advantage of it while we can but given the latest earnings call and the Kompany literally verbalizing that they want to staff enough pilots to where they don’t have to pay premium, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that we make a drastic gain in our TFP rates on this contract!

If you haven’t already done so, start fleshing out how much our purchasing power has eroded due to their blatant dragging out of negotiations. Two years to even respond to our proposal? Insulting!

How about the large inflation with no end in sight? If this keeps up (which it will for a while) we’re looking at at least a 40-50% hit to our purchasing power from when we passed the current contract.

I respectfully implore you to up your expectations in the pay rates part of our contract because we’re getting our collective asses handed to us by the Kompany’s stall tactics and past, present, and future inflation.

Given their recent statements to stomp out premium pay and overstaff the airline (like 2017) shouldn’t we be basing our pay expectations on 90-100 TFP/month? If so we need a very sizable bump in rates.
90 to 100 TFP I get that now. Maybe our unions and our Airlines need to get out of bed with one particular political party and we might all be better off. You know the one that caused.
  1. Inflation 8.5% and Climbing
  2. Gasoline and Heating Costs Up 48%
  3. Natural Gas Up 21.6%
  4. Electricity Up 11.1%
  5. Rents Up 15.2%
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:25 PM
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If you want us to be unified, then don't artificially divide us.
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Old 05-03-2022, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
If you want us to be unified, then don't artificially divide us.
Nailed it.
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Old 05-03-2022, 11:41 PM
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Well, he’s not wrong. It was the Dumocrats that caused this. Sorry, but that’s the truth.
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Old 05-04-2022, 03:33 AM
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Well, he’s not wrong. It was the Dumocrats that caused this. Sorry, but that’s the truth.

I like you, so I don't want to get into the mud. Bottom line is that in a month and a half we have to put aside all of our differences, and stand side by side holding signs in numbers too great to ignore. We need unity on par with 2016 or better.

That means it doesn't matter what our politics are, what our religion is, our favorite football team, military or civilian, hired or acquired, pay for training or earned the type, college or not, or how we think we got here.

We have to stand unified and resolute. And we simply can't do that if we are sniping with one another over tribal BS that isn't relevant to the matter at hand. We've got to leave that stuff at the door and embrace that which makes us brothers and sisters instead. Let's find things we can agree on instead, like making fun of the guys who choose THAT day to pick up premium.
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Old 05-04-2022, 05:16 AM
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Agree with Zap. Political mud slinging at this point (and really at any point) is ridiculous and counter productive.

There will be pilots walking past us on June 21st to report for that phat premium trip that they got in open time that morning. Meanwhile, I am driving 8 hours round trip on my vacation week (and foregoing what could be a very profitable week) to be there.

Let's turn our collective scorn towards the company and those in our own ranks who can't bother to get engaged when we need them.
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
I like you, so I don't want to get into the mud. Bottom line is that in a month and a half we have to put aside all of our differences, and stand side by side holding signs in numbers too great to ignore. We need unity on par with 2016 or better.

That means it doesn't matter what our politics are, what our religion is, our favorite football team, military or civilian, hired or acquired, pay for training or earned the type, college or not, or how we think we got here.

We have to stand unified and resolute. And we simply can't do that if we are sniping with one another over tribal BS that isn't relevant to the matter at hand. We've got to leave that stuff at the door and embrace that which makes us brothers and sisters instead. Let's find things we can agree on instead, like making fun of the guys who choose THAT day to pick up premium.
Totally agree, Zap. Just keeping the record straight as to who is responsible for this insane inflation. See you on the 21st of next month as long as I can get the day off.
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Bottom 10 in MCO... chances of NOT having to do a reserve day on the 21st?? I cant book anything until the 11th
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Bottom 10 in MCO... chances of NOT having to do a reserve day on the 21st?? I cant book anything until the 11th
Bottom 10….guessing weekend Rsv. Bid lines that start on Fri and hope there’s a 3 day block.
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