10-27% attrition in new hire classes
03-23-2022, 01:37 PM
#81
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Where are the Safety Management System career long professionals who've devoted entire careers and educations to mitigating risks at the System and Organizational level.
That are implanted at multiple levels in the FAA and the SWA organizations and have built entire empires around "Safety".
Why are they not beating there drums as hiring standards continue to plummet due to market forces.
Wait.
We all already know the answer to that one.
Don't ask hard questions, that way you don't have to deal with the hard answers.
That are implanted at multiple levels in the FAA and the SWA organizations and have built entire empires around "Safety".
Why are they not beating there drums as hiring standards continue to plummet due to market forces.
Wait.
We all already know the answer to that one.
Don't ask hard questions, that way you don't have to deal with the hard answers.
“Please fill out our Employee Engagement Survey and in the meanwhile shut up and color!”
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03-23-2022, 01:42 PM
#82
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To be fair, it was our previous CEO, but to paraphrase, during our last contract negotiations, circa 2014, GK said something to the effect when asked about the progress of contract negations for the pilots, “our pilots will receive market rates just like any other profession, such as plumbers for instance.”
03-23-2022, 02:55 PM
#83
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To be fair, it was our previous CEO, but to paraphrase, during our last contract negotiations, circa 2014, GK said something to the effect when asked about the progress of contract negations for the pilots, “our pilots will receive market rates just like any other profession, such as plumbers for instance.”
03-23-2022, 03:14 PM
#84
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To be fair, it was our previous CEO, but to paraphrase, during our last contract negotiations, circa 2014, GK said something to the effect when asked about the progress of contract negations for the pilots, “our pilots will receive market rates just like any other profession, such as plumbers for instance.”
03-23-2022, 04:04 PM
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03-23-2022, 04:09 PM
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10-27% attrition in new hire classes
The story I heard was that he said something like the above in response to a question asked of him by a pilot at a captain upgrade class meeting with leadership. The question asked was something along the lines of, “How much do you think pilots should be paid?” The person I heard that story from claimed they were there and heard him say it firsthand.
Wherever it came from, (it’s been too long for me to clearly remember) I was equally as incensed as the vast majority of us. What an incendiary and tone deaf thing to say to your front line employees after excruciatingly prolonged negotiations.
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03-23-2022, 05:56 PM
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I doubt it. 500 of those yessies just took early retirement and 1221 new koolies just got served up a turd in their punch bowl pretty early. This "84% will vote yes" mantra is stale
03-23-2022, 07:45 PM
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03-23-2022, 09:11 PM
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And the 1,221? We’ll see. My feeling is that factor will be overblown when we vote on this thing. BUT I HOPE I’M WRONG!
As for the rest of the pilot group? The cluelessness and lack of engagement runs pretty deep. Again, 84% voted yes on TA2. TA1 nearly passed.
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