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Old 03-22-2022, 03:26 PM
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One of the latest classes had 12 that weren't recommended for the PC ride.
yeah.......what?
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Old 03-22-2022, 05:19 PM
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Time for pilots to do the hiring 99%.
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Old 03-22-2022, 06:18 PM
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Huge if true. I didn't think the lowering of the bar would be apparent so quick but apparently here we are. This is what happens when you have an industry lagging contract coupled with the longest upgrades in the industry.
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Have a buddy going thru class now and asked him if the PC thing was true. He said it wasn’t new hire FOs, but those hired to be instructors.


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Old 03-22-2022, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DownAndDirty
Huge if true. I didn't think the lowering of the bar would be apparent so quick but apparently here we are. This is what happens when you have an industry lagging contract coupled with the longest upgrades in the industry.
This is what I’ve been hearing from a check airman that’s in the know. We’re getting a lot of “Tier 2” applicants, meaning less qualified and/or no turbine PIC time, no 121 time, etc.

Also, the bust rate for new-hires has increased, so this thing about 12 not getting recommended for the PC doesn’t surprise me.
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Old 03-22-2022, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
One of the latest classes had 12 that weren't recommended for the PC ride.
Were those new-hire pilots or new-hire instructors going through the initial course that supposedly needed more training?
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
This is what I’ve been hearing from a check airman that’s in the know. We’re getting a lot of “Tier 2” applicants, meaning less qualified and/or no turbine PIC time, no 121 time, etc.

Also, the bust rate for new-hires has increased, so this thing about 12 not getting recommended for the PC doesn’t surprise me.

I believe Whackmasters mom was a ‘tier 2’ applicant also
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JD61
I believe Whackmasters mom was a ‘tier 2’ applicant also

Your first post and this is it ? I am guessing a lot of IPAs last night .
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Your first post and this is it ? I am guessing a lot of IPAs last night .
That was a retort in the making over the course of a few years it seems.
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Old 03-23-2022, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow
Have a buddy going thru class now and asked him if the PC thing was true. He said it wasn’t new hire FOs, but those hired to be instructors.


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My bud, a very SR CKA just told me it was 12 from a recent class. Not instructors or pilots. But I doubt they have 12 instructors in one class. Maybe a combo of both. I also had a guy fresh off IOE. He shouldn't have been signed off. My CKA bud said he is pushing for additional training for new hires. They are seeing a trend.
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