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Old 04-21-2022, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
Wait, what? Doesn't SWAPA call us a part of "The Big 4"?
Can you be part of the big four if you have LBB overnights? Or is it okay if you fly 108TFP average?
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Old 04-21-2022, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
Wait, what? Doesn't SWAPA call us a part of "The Big 4"?
It's pretty easy really,
Big 3: DL, UA, AA
Big 4: DL, UA, AA, WN
Big 5: DL, UA, AA, FX, UP
Big 6: DL, UA, AA, FX, UP, WN
Rest: Who cares.
Oh, and always in that order too.
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Old 04-22-2022, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Proximity
Can you be part of the big four if you have LBB overnights? Or is it okay if you fly 108TFP average?
I mean, if the MAF Elegante doesn’t get you in the Big 4 club nothing will.
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasFlight
I mean, if the MAF Elegante doesn’t get you in the Big 4 club nothing will.
You haven't lived until you've had the Friday night seafood buffet at that hotel.

The next morning, you'll wish you hadn't.
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CA1900
You haven't lived until you've had the Friday night seafood buffet at that hotel.

The next morning, you'll wish you hadn't.

I like to stand in front of the plaque recreating the 10 commandments and wonder how many of them are broken each night at a hotel called "The Elegante"
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Old 04-22-2022, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
It's pretty easy really,
Big 3: DL, UA, AA
Big 4: DL, UA, AA, WN
Big 5: DL, UA, AA, FX, UP
Big 6: DL, UA, AA, FX, UP, WN
Rest: Who cares.
Oh, and always in that order too.
I think the big 4 is for the journalists who right articles about acquisitions & mergers, and the market share dilemma. Jockeying for 5th/6th are AA and WN with respect to where pilots want to be. WN is likely 6th today because they mostly get their points for being secure in a safe choice in a volatile industry when there is a glut of pilots. Not the case in a pilot shortage market.
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Old 04-23-2022, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
I think the big 4 is for the journalists who right articles about acquisitions & mergers, and the market share dilemma. Jockeying for 5th/6th are AA and WN with respect to where pilots want to be. WN is likely 6th today because they mostly get their points for being secure in a safe choice in a volatile industry when there is a glut of pilots. Not the case in a pilot shortage market.
1,221 pilots would disagree with this premise.
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Old 04-23-2022, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hobbit64
1,221 pilots would disagree with this premise.
Only if it they all had offers from the other 5.
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Old 04-23-2022, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
Only if it they all had offers from the other 5.

Out of curiosity how many 1221 are left? If it’s more than a handful that should give you a good glimpse into Carls mindset for negotiations. “Well they’ll complain but they will still show up, get JA’d and pickup to meet our schedule. So what do you have to offer.”
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Old 04-23-2022, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
Only if it they all had offers from the other 5.
Apologies, my comment was aimed at the fact that SWA used to be a place that was sold as 'secure' and safe from furlough. That was my point.
I misinterpreted your post.
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