Cyio

I won’t speak to the dollar amounts of any fines because I don’t have that handy, but that’s not totally the point. We still have to pay to defend it regardless of the outcome. In addition the mediator wouldn’t take kindly to it.

there is a reason the banner at the top of these forums talks about it and there is a reason our own union talked about it.

You coming on here and trying to shame people for doing what this pilot groups has historically done at record levels doesn’t help anything and I would think if asked, SWAPA would encourage you to stop it, much like the moderators here have done.

hoover

to what end will you use said data base?
Check the list and get up out of the seat if the person you're flying with has picked up open time in the last 3 5 yrs? What about in the last yr after the union said to keep flying extra to build a war chest? Literally shame that said pilot for doing what the union said to?
I've picked up numerous trips out of open time. I'm sure I'm on your list, if not introduce yourself to me by explaining how I'm the problem we dont have a contract and I'll afford you the reason to remove yourself from the cockpit.
Gotta let it go man, you're holding on too tight. . If the union says stop picking up I'll be at home enjoying a nice bourbon, but until then its ****ing in the wind.

tm602

I wouldn't give those year 1 guys any guff over bidding straight. They get second year for it and Year 1 here is no picnic.

ElonMusk

I think I have been more than clear in previous posts 1st year guys get a pass. Anyone else I call out to their face. Strangely I have heard just about every excuse under the moon but after digging deeper they all have multiple houses and cars and vacation stuff, nobody has ever stated to my face it’s for a strike fund until after I call them out. Then magically it’s all about the fund. I will shame each and every one of you. The individual doesn’t hurt the cause it’s the 8 percent of the pilot group that hurts the cause you make the ex Continental guys in HOU look like Boy Scouts.

Feel free to disagree, that is your right but after this thing is signed there will be lots of things that come out of the autopsy. One of them is going to be the same thing that came out of the United new contract, OT pickup was a problem.

WHACKMASTER

You must be an absolute peach to be around.

🔥👇

hoover

I dont think you're going to get the sympathy or praise you're looking for if you post some list of those who picked up the last 3+ yrs.
Hope you got a lot of toner it's going to be more paper than our wx packets for the whole airline.

Cyio

Let them post away. Picking up OT at this point is encouraged by the union. When the union says to stop, then we have something to talk about.

e6bpilot

So no open time, but it's ok for first year guys. Any other personal rules that you have that the whole pilot group should abide by?
I admire your anti company animus, but I think it is misplaced right now being aimed at your fellow pilots for doing something that the union has explicitly said they absolutely still need to do. When we are released and SWAPA says to stop picking up, you, me, and 99% of other pilots will be on the same page in that regard. We have a union for a reason, and that is so that we are all pulling in the same direction at the same time. That's how you apply leverage, not by having 11k pilots all on a separate plan.

Cyio

This is exactly my point as well, however Elon doesnt want to see it this way and has decided their way is the right way, regardless of what anyone says, inlcuding SWAPA. No point in arguing anymore with them, as they have decided that anyone that disagrees with them deserves to be on some imaginary list and is the problem.

RJSAviator76

^^^^^ This!