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10-28-2021, 04:09 PM
#932
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 988
Seriously. What is the sense in displacing people over the holidays to "balance the crews" when you're going to have to eat the expense of training and hotels for them? Especially considering we should have new bodies on the line in February.
10-28-2021, 04:38 PM
#934
weekends off? Nope...
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 2,021
10-28-2021, 05:07 PM
#936
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,919
The next vacancy bid will be for Jan. New hires will start class in Dec and will bid at the end of the month for their base (Feb bid). So there will be roughly 120 new hires hitting the line in Feb, which will allow displaced pilots to go back where they want.
10-28-2021, 05:11 PM
#937
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,173
According to the results yes it’s bad. If it was good they wouldn’t have so many bypassing it.
10-28-2021, 06:27 PM
#938
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: Pilot
Posts: 180
Yeah I don't get it one bit. With every displacement out west, you're burning an instructor for ETOPS when those instructors would be better used for upgrade and initial qual. Network planning just does what they want and everyone is left to pick up the pieces.
10-29-2021, 09:56 AM
#939
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,665
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It's maddening.
Moving crews around every month is great when we are hiring and upgrading at the same time, but the last 18 months or so has left me wondering if crew planning actually talks to their bosses or if they just do their own thing. They should have just done every 3 months or even just shut down the monthly vacancies for a full 6 months.
The December bid was terrible. January will be even worse. It's going to take a solid 6 months of hiring to unscrew this mess.
10-29-2021, 10:09 AM
#940
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
It's maddening.
Moving crews around every month is great when we are hiring and upgrading at the same time, but the last 18 months or so has left me wondering if crew planning actually talks to their bosses or if they just do their own thing. They should have just done every 3 months or even just shut down the monthly vacancies for a full 6 months.
The December bid was terrible. January will be even worse. It's going to take a solid 6 months of hiring to unscrew this mess.
Moving crews around every month is great when we are hiring and upgrading at the same time, but the last 18 months or so has left me wondering if crew planning actually talks to their bosses or if they just do their own thing. They should have just done every 3 months or even just shut down the monthly vacancies for a full 6 months.
The December bid was terrible. January will be even worse. It's going to take a solid 6 months of hiring to unscrew this mess.
There's no significant cost to the company unless the pilot asks for relocation. The hotels are pennies by comparison. There needs to be a disincentive.
Over at brand X, before you grow you hire and, yes, you intentionally overstaffed to build a training float. Once all of those new FOs are hired THEN you can upgrade bunches of people, which creates vacancies in the right seat, which are immediately filled by the newly trained newhires.
Here they're putting the cart before the horse. Sadly, it works for the bean counters because there's virtually no cost to the company when they choose to do things like that. Except good will.
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