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#813
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,802
The same holds true even today. I remember how unpleasant it was to spend a few days with all the Captain A-holes and that’s why I make a conscious effort to foster a chill atmosphere.
#814
Actually Zap, you know one of the biggest things I looked forward to about my first airline upgrade back in 2001? That there would be one less A-hole that FOs and FAs would have to worry about flying with.
The same holds true even today. I remember how unpleasant it was to spend a few days with all the Captain A-holes and that’s why I make a conscious effort to foster a chill atmosphere.
The same holds true even today. I remember how unpleasant it was to spend a few days with all the Captain A-holes and that’s why I make a conscious effort to foster a chill atmosphere.
Well done. That can't always be easy.
#815
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,802
I get it. 10(+) years doing multiple legs per day in a cramped 73 cockpit. It’s enough to burn people out, but don’t just go rogue or put on the check FO hat.
#816
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 643
Trying to do everything the captain (or FP pilot) normally does before he does it. Examples: turning on the anti-ice if he's not flying the leg, arming the speedbrake for landing, searching through the logbook when arriving at the "jet," turning off the center tank pumps instead of just pointing them out if the tank is just getting empty, making PF calls *every* time while performing PM duties, making up new calls that aren't in the big book of knowledge, actively searching for minutia to write up in the logbook....
One or two of these things here and there and I don't even blink an eye. When it's a pattern of single pilot kernal douchery, it makes an easy trip downright loooonnngggerrrrr.
Blaring crappy music or crappy sports at the gate between legs... the list goes on and on. Just as many hard to deal with FOs as captains. Fortunately it's still a small percentage.
One or two of these things here and there and I don't even blink an eye. When it's a pattern of single pilot kernal douchery, it makes an easy trip downright loooonnngggerrrrr.
Blaring crappy music or crappy sports at the gate between legs... the list goes on and on. Just as many hard to deal with FOs as captains. Fortunately it's still a small percentage.
#817
#818
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 160
I gotta say I only have two captains that I just dread when they show up on my schedule here at Southwest. One is unsafe and the other one is just a miserable old man - and he is only about 60. The first one I will not fly with ever again (he may have even retired but don’t know that for sure). The other guy I will fly with, but it simply is not pleasant. Before I upgraded at the regionals, my grocery list was shorter than my bad captain list and I actually used every slot available on my avoid list.
I have been here coming up on five years and flown with hundreds of captains. I have my favorites like anyone else, but overall I would say our captains are well above what you will find at most airlines. Most of the FO’s I know feel pretty much the same way (not that I actually know many FO’s that well - we just don’t cross paths.)
I have been here coming up on five years and flown with hundreds of captains. I have my favorites like anyone else, but overall I would say our captains are well above what you will find at most airlines. Most of the FO’s I know feel pretty much the same way (not that I actually know many FO’s that well - we just don’t cross paths.)
#819
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 252
Trying to do everything the captain (or FP pilot) normally does before he does it. Examples: turning on the anti-ice if he's not flying the leg, arming the speedbrake for landing, searching through the logbook when arriving at the "jet," turning off the center tank pumps instead of just pointing them out if the tank is just getting empty, making PF calls *every* time while performing PM duties, making up new calls that aren't in the big book of knowledge, actively searching for minutia to write up in the logbook....
One or two of these things here and there and I don't even blink an eye. When it's a pattern of single pilot kernal douchery, it makes an easy trip downright loooonnngggerrrrr.
Blaring crappy music or crappy sports at the gate between legs... the list goes on and on. Just as many hard to deal with FOs as captains. Fortunately it's still a small percentage.
One or two of these things here and there and I don't even blink an eye. When it's a pattern of single pilot kernal douchery, it makes an easy trip downright loooonnngggerrrrr.
Blaring crappy music or crappy sports at the gate between legs... the list goes on and on. Just as many hard to deal with FOs as captains. Fortunately it's still a small percentage.
#820
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 49
Yep
Got a late start here at WN. Just turned 50 and starting year 5. At this point my position is I may never upgrade. Could care less about being a Captain. Flippin’ switches and driving home! Do not want to commute! We shall see. 🙂
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