Upgrade times
06-10-2021, 02:19 AM
#481
weekends off? Nope...
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 2,021
I personally don’t think the bypassers will be any more eager to switch seats now than they were pre-covid. Honestly, I think they might be less eager to do so if it involves a commute. You didn’t want to be a junior captian commuting over the last year if you were on the fence about it (reduced flight schedules, blocked seats, masks on jumpseats, hotel restrictions, limited food, etc.) The last year was a rough time to be a commuter, and I think there will still be bypassers playing it safe with their seniority in the base of their choosing until the memories of the covid restrictions are well in the past.
Just my thoughts (maybe wishful thinking
)
Just my thoughts (maybe wishful thinking
)
06-10-2021, 04:30 AM
#482
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 341
06-10-2021, 01:55 PM
#483
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 52
What is this “religion” you keep mentioning? I’ve been bypassing for 3 years. Nothing has changed. It was a 1 year delay not 10. I still have 16 years left and my parameters haven’t changed for upgrading. With the displacements to LAX I can’t even hold MDW at 13 years. Of all the bypassers I know, not one has changed their parameters for upgrading. I’m sure some have in the large list of people bypassing. Don’t get me wrong, we all want to upgrade just rather upgrade to a line than reserve. Being in the top 10% of FO’s is a pretty good deal.
06-10-2021, 04:14 PM
#484
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
What is this “religion” you keep mentioning? I’ve been bypassing for 3 years. Nothing has changed. It was a 1 year delay not 10. I still have 16 years left and my parameters haven’t changed for upgrading. With the displacements to LAX I can’t even hold MDW at 13 years. Of all the bypassers I know, not one has changed their parameters for upgrading. I’m sure some have in the large list of people bypassing. Don’t get me wrong, we all want to upgrade just rather upgrade to a line than reserve. Being in the top 10% of FO’s is a pretty good deal.
I didn't mean to offend. It was just a phrase to suggest that many people who might have been holding out for a certain domicile, or waiting to get a good vacation bid, might now be rethinking that decision in light of the last year. I understand everyone has their own goals and motivations. No offense intended.
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06-10-2021, 05:00 PM
#485
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 459
No way in hell I’d commute to reserve to be in charge. I had to start over late in the game but I thoroughly take advantage of my right seat responsibilities or more accurately the lack of.
“Parking checklist complete, nice flying with you” Driving home before the plane is empty.
“What’s the problem with boarding? Oh, I’m going to shop for boat parts. LMK when you’re ready to push”
”getting food and going for a walk. Will make push”
Already did the captain thing.
“Parking checklist complete, nice flying with you” Driving home before the plane is empty.
“What’s the problem with boarding? Oh, I’m going to shop for boat parts. LMK when you’re ready to push”
”getting food and going for a walk. Will make push”
Already did the captain thing.
06-10-2021, 05:56 PM
#486
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 52
I didn't mean to offend. It was just a phrase to suggest that many people who might have been holding out for a certain domicile, or waiting to get a good vacation bid, might now be rethinking that decision in light of the last year. I understand everyone has their own goals and motivations. No offense intended.
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06-10-2021, 07:04 PM
#487
More Cowbell!!!
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: Spreading the LUV from the "Write" seat!!!
Posts: 346
I’d say 13 per aircraft is a bit fat on staffing level. 12.5 sounds more realistic and desirable to me. Whats my reasoning…
Assuming we currently have 300 pilots out on medical, military leave (aside from remaining ExTOs) -> we are currently staffed with 8200 active pilots to operate 650 aircraft (9000 - 500 FOs on ExTo - 300 out on medical).
This seems to be a good spot (Premium in the summer for everybody).
Assuming we grow by 30 aircraft, we would need to add about 500 pilots next year.
375 (30 x 12.5) + 100 retirements. Round it up to 500.
Thats my prediction based on my napkin math.
Did I mention that I am a pilot and thus an expert on everything and anything😬
Assuming we currently have 300 pilots out on medical, military leave (aside from remaining ExTOs) -> we are currently staffed with 8200 active pilots to operate 650 aircraft (9000 - 500 FOs on ExTo - 300 out on medical).
This seems to be a good spot (Premium in the summer for everybody).
Assuming we grow by 30 aircraft, we would need to add about 500 pilots next year.
375 (30 x 12.5) + 100 retirements. Round it up to 500.
Thats my prediction based on my napkin math.
Did I mention that I am a pilot and thus an expert on everything and anything😬
06-10-2021, 07:04 PM
#488
weekends off? Nope...
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 2,021
No way in hell I’d commute to reserve to be in charge. I had to start over late in the game but I thoroughly take advantage of my right seat responsibilities or more accurately the lack of.
“Parking checklist complete, nice flying with you” Driving home before the plane is empty.
“What’s the problem with boarding? Oh, I’m going to shop for boat parts. LMK when you’re ready to push”
”getting food and going for a walk. Will make push”
Already did the captain thing.
“Parking checklist complete, nice flying with you” Driving home before the plane is empty.
“What’s the problem with boarding? Oh, I’m going to shop for boat parts. LMK when you’re ready to push”
”getting food and going for a walk. Will make push”
Already did the captain thing.
06-10-2021, 08:48 PM
#489
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 46
760 x 12.5 = 9,500 pilots required. Assuming we have about 9,000 on the seniority list right now we could be hiring 600 (500 plus 100 retirements).
We shall see.
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