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05-20-2021, 06:55 AM
#321
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You want some varsity level Eeyore stuff? Even with 1000 new hires and a 1000 upgrades in the next 24 months, it's only about a 6% increase in relative seniority.
Not enough to switch seats by the 10 year point, which means you my friend are still on the hook for a big meal and some cold ones.
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Not enough to switch seats by the 10 year point, which means you my friend are still on the hook for a big meal and some cold ones.
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Sorry? We are 9014 pilots right now. With 18 retirements next month alone. So basically let’s say 8950 by the time the first new hire sets on property. Add 1000 pilots and we are still below the 9890 pilots we had prior to everything stopping. Then let’s add 323 pilots retiring in the next 24 months that 1323. For sake of argument let’s do 1323 by 8950. That’s roughly 15% movement in our list with 0 growth. Meaning just getting back to our previous size!! So what are you basing your math on? Just curious ?
05-20-2021, 07:05 AM
#322
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Sorry? We are 9014 pilots right now. With 18 retirements next month alone. So basically let’s say 8950 by the time the first new hire sets on property. Add 1000 pilots and we are still below the 9890 pilots we had prior to everything stopping. Then let’s add 323 pilots retiring in the next 24 months that 1323. For sake of argument let’s do 1323 by 8950. That’s roughly 15% movement in our list with 0 growth. Meaning just getting back to our previous size!! So what are you basing your math on? Just curious ?
So basically what you're saying is you're going boat shopping this afternoon
05-20-2021, 07:34 AM
#323
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05-20-2021, 07:43 AM
#324
Furloughed Again?!
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Sorry? We are 9014 pilots right now. With 18 retirements next month alone. So basically let’s say 8950 by the time the first new hire sets on property. Add 1000 pilots and we are still below the 9890 pilots we had prior to everything stopping. Then let’s add 323 pilots retiring in the next 24 months that 1323. For sake of argument let’s do 1323 by 8950. That’s roughly 15% movement in our list with 0 growth. Meaning just getting back to our previous size!! So what are you basing your math on? Just curious ?
Then I just took the 9014 and added 1000. Rounded to 10,000 for simplicity.
Took my current seniority number from the SWAPA seniority snapshot and divided it by 10,000 (#5XXX / 10,000)
Ended up with something just shy of 60% so, for me in particular, just about a 5% improvement. I admittedly didn't get as granular as you did. If I'm mathing wrong though, please correct me.
05-20-2021, 07:54 AM
#325
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We did 800+ new hires plus supporting upgrades in either 2017 or 2018 I believe, in the old training center. Our current training capability would be well over 1000+ new hires per year without even resorting to stuff like E periods.
05-20-2021, 08:13 AM
#328
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05-20-2021, 08:16 AM
#329
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"He'd say, 'Who?'"
Guess it worked.
05-20-2021, 08:30 AM
#330
At your mom's house
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So if the rumor of new hires in Oct are true then when would the 500 ExTOs have to start training to get them all done? They cant even train the June ones in June. I still say upgrades in Sept and Oct, maybe a sprinkling of recalls in Nov then everyone back Jan/Feb with a new hire class at the end of Feb.
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