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Old 05-16-2021, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PropPiedmont
Minus the 2 year plus grounding of the Max fleet, then half of the Max fleet re-grounded for over a month, the NG pickle fork grounding, the NG fan blade inspection grounding, and the classic skin tears. There seems to be a decent portion of the fleet that gets grounded about every 2 years. At least that’s what history shows. It’s a risk running one fleet type.
No you are wrong.

History shows year after year of profits at SWA while everyone else went boom and bust.
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Old 05-17-2021, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
No you are wrong.

History shows year after year of profits at SWA while everyone else went boom and bust.
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Old 05-17-2021, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
No you are wrong.

History shows year after year of profits at SWA while everyone else went boom and bust.
I’m talking about risk and you are talking about profits. Anyway, how much of the discount on airframes added into the profits? Or is that not related?
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Old 05-17-2021, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PropPiedmont
I’m talking about risk and you are talking about profits. Anyway, how much of the discount on airframes added into the profits? Or is that not related?
If we had 2 fleets, we then have double the chance of a fleet grounding. A grounding that takes down half the fleet is no less crippling than a grounding that takes down the entire fleet. That is also a very low probability event. The added complexity however would be evident from day 1, with an absolute certain probability of occurring. So the added benefit of mitigating a low probability event does not outweigh the added cost/complexity to our model.
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Old 05-17-2021, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PropPiedmont
I’m talking about risk and you are talking about profits.
I’m talking about job security.

You either grow or die. Southwest grows, multi fleet airlines die or get bought out.
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Old 05-17-2021, 03:06 PM
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Andrew W mentioned two airframes would have zero benefits to subvert risk of grounding. We would need 4 or more different airframes to mitigate risk from groundings. Thus it wasn’t feasible. The added cost from a second airframe was prohibitive.
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Old 05-17-2021, 03:34 PM
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Andrew W mentioned two airframes would have zero benefits to subvert risk of grounding. We would need 4 or more different airframes to mitigate risk from groundings. Thus it wasn’t feasible. The added cost from a second airframe was prohibitive.
Yup. Exactly what he said. I think I'll trust that guy over anyone on here that thinks it's as easy as adding a 2nd type without considering the complications.
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Old 05-17-2021, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
Andrew W mentioned two airframes would have zero benefits to subvert risk of grounding. We would need 4 or more different airframes to mitigate risk from groundings. Thus it wasn’t feasible. The added cost from a second airframe was prohibitive.
You will see him as CEO one day.
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Old 05-17-2021, 03:47 PM
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You will see him as CEO one day.
Let's hope sooner rather than later, before someone else picks him off.
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Old 05-17-2021, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
Let's hope sooner rather than later, before someone else picks him off.
Lets hope not !! That would be a big blow.
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