Caveman

Come on Smooth.

Where are aircraft retirements #s in the filing.
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Smooth at FL450

under Fleet and Capitol spending.

Attachment 7151

Psycho18th

I’m still going with yes, they are lying. “Expects” makes everything printed after guesswork. Any “unexpected” change is easy to justify.

e6bpilot

Bingo. Take a look at previous years filings and end of year fleet numbers. They aren't even close.

Caveman

We're on same side, from reading your posts. Not trying to sell you or convince you of anything.

If you take 13 tsmitr's per plane, the 2023 hiring plans don't add up.

But then again, anything to prevent 150% pay, to include paying 300% of the trip guarantee to avoid premium is fairly common practice.

So you might be right on the over-hire plan after all?

Hobbit64

At my last CQT leader’s briefing I specifically asked the management rep to give a range for SWA’s staffing level target per airplane. He immediately interrupted my question, stopped talking rainbows and unicorns and filibustered for 60 seconds. He then left post haste.

Acta non Verba.

Smooth at FL450

We are on the same side.

They also reference higher costs due to "sub-optimal productivity levels" so I'm sure part of the drive is to lower the premium payout. Great! Our new rates will need to reflect that lower productivity potential. Then we also have the indirect pressure we are putting on the competition by hiring so many regional pilots, undercutting their feed into major hubs. In AW's recent townhall he talked about that and how we are waiting for them to consolidate their hub presence, creating opportunity for us to move in.

Then we can think about mergers/acquisitions if the Max7 falls through and any issues getting DOJ approval, and maybe their telegraphing the desired hiring plans knowing they'll fall short is part of that pending chess match.

There are multiple factors at play here...I'm just not as skeptical as others simply because we've never hired this many before. We also never had 26 simulators before...but now we do. Let's hope E-period sims don't become a thing...there's 20% unused training capacity just sitting there, every night.

Smooth at FL450

Did those filings encompass the Max grounding?

at6d

Ok side question and maybe it’s been hit before. I just looked at the SWAPA Lance projection and shockingly I have a gray bar for LAX.

Just want to make sure about how it works—I’m not based in LAX, so unless I’m there as an FO I won’t be eligible for it, correct? Just to be clear, I don’t want it there. I just don’t want a surprise.

RJSAviator76

That’s correct. If you want to lance in LAX, you have to bid to LAX as an FO and opt in to lance. And then hope some senior people don’t bid in and make you lose your star. On Dec bid, my seniority went down in LAX as some more senior people moved in, presumably to lance.