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05-28-2022, 05:22 PM
#1481
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 612
... Not gonna phone it in and make my co-workers do my work for me, but I sure as heck won't be looking for opportunities to "take one for the team." SWA management and training scheduling used up my entire second career's worth of give-a-crap in under 4 years. I'm working for $, not high-fives.
Preach!!
ditto here. I don’t see a course change in our management. All I’ve seen is talk so far.
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05-28-2022, 05:34 PM
#1482
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,802
05-28-2022, 06:37 PM
#1483
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,919
As a senior, bypassing 12-yr (or more) FO flying mostly premium trips, you can make as much or more than a 12-yr (or more) CA who isn’t that senior without flying many, or possibly any, additional days. And you have a better schedule comprised mostly of turns, 2-days, and 3-days (if you desire). A juniorish, bottom half CA will probably be stuck with at least one 4-day per month and almost definitely, mostly 3-days. That all assumes the CA isn’t really able to get much or any premium. Tournament playing cartel members are a different matter.
A jr Rsv CA can prob plan on around 110 easily. That’s $27k/mo without picking up anything.
A 12 yr FO would have to credit 157/mo. Let’s say you can get rid of everything and only pick up premium and avg 9/day. You’re working 17 days a month, minimum.
I check open time awards to see who’s above/below the cap so I can figure out likelihood of getting what I want. Some senior FO’s are working 180/mo with 4/5 days off a month. Once they’re above the cap, they’re picking up straight. They’re working weekends, etc. Sick, vacation, training is all at FO pay.
I don’t see the point of working to death when you can just upgrade and chill for the same pay with more days off. To each his own though.
05-29-2022, 02:19 AM
#1484
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: Left
Posts: 1,258
05-29-2022, 02:38 AM
#1485
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: On the bus,seat 0A
Posts: 3,332
A jr Rsv CA can prob plan on around 110 easily. That’s $27k/mo without picking up anything.
A 12 yr FO would have to credit 157/mo. Let’s say you can get rid of everything and only pick up premium and avg 9/day. You’re working 17 days a month, minimum.
I check open time awards to see who’s above/below the cap so I can figure out likelihood of getting what I want. Some senior FO’s are working 180/mo with 4/5 days off a month. Once they’re above the cap, they’re picking up straight. They’re working weekends, etc. Sick, vacation, training is all at FO pay.
I don’t see the point of working to death when you can just upgrade and chill for the same pay with more days off. To each his own though.
A 12 yr FO would have to credit 157/mo. Let’s say you can get rid of everything and only pick up premium and avg 9/day. You’re working 17 days a month, minimum.
I check open time awards to see who’s above/below the cap so I can figure out likelihood of getting what I want. Some senior FO’s are working 180/mo with 4/5 days off a month. Once they’re above the cap, they’re picking up straight. They’re working weekends, etc. Sick, vacation, training is all at FO pay.
I don’t see the point of working to death when you can just upgrade and chill for the same pay with more days off. To each his own though.
05-29-2022, 03:58 AM
#1487
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 766
A jr Rsv CA can prob plan on around 110 easily. That’s $27k/mo without picking up anything.
A 12 yr FO would have to credit 157/mo. Let’s say you can get rid of everything and only pick up premium and avg 9/day. You’re working 17 days a month, minimum.
I check open time awards to see who’s above/below the cap so I can figure out likelihood of getting what I want. Some senior FO’s are working 180/mo with 4/5 days off a month. Once they’re above the cap, they’re picking up straight. They’re working weekends, etc. Sick, vacation, training is all at FO pay.
I don’t see the point of working to death when you can just upgrade and chill for the same pay with more days off. To each his own though.
A 12 yr FO would have to credit 157/mo. Let’s say you can get rid of everything and only pick up premium and avg 9/day. You’re working 17 days a month, minimum.
I check open time awards to see who’s above/below the cap so I can figure out likelihood of getting what I want. Some senior FO’s are working 180/mo with 4/5 days off a month. Once they’re above the cap, they’re picking up straight. They’re working weekends, etc. Sick, vacation, training is all at FO pay.
I don’t see the point of working to death when you can just upgrade and chill for the same pay with more days off. To each his own though.
Well, because that upgrade is to a base way out west and probably some sweet reserve. No flexibility on schedule... you know the drill.
but yes, people pushing 200 TFP (the ones that work hard for it) vs upgrading is always amusing.
05-29-2022, 04:55 AM
#1488
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,919
Prob working working at least part of the weekend, but if you’re doing 180-200…you’re working weekends anyway. With 20-25% rsv coverage, vast majority of trips mid week are going to rsv and yes, they’re taking them as EF or straight to keep the credit coming.
As far as vacation, one man’s trash is another’s treasure. Someone does wants a Feb week for a June…or just burn a sick call at CA pay.
Maybe they can’t hold a 1st class medical…who knows. I know I didn’t sign up for 6 days off a month…even if you get to brag you made $400k as a FO.
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