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05-26-2022, 05:30 AM

#1451

hoover

At your mom's house

Joined APC: Jun 2008

Position: cpt 737

Posts: 2,797

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

Looks like 272 more upgrades through the December vacancy.

looks like it might hit mid 2015 hires by end of the yr then. In 2016 is when the hiring picked up so that'll bring it back down to close to 9 yrs to get through them I'd imagine.

05-26-2022, 06:30 AM

#1452

flyguy81

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Joined APC: Oct 2006

Posts: 2,919

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoover

looks like it might hit mid 2015 hires by end of the yr then. In 2016 is when the hiring picked up so that'll bring it back down to close to 9 yrs to get through them I'd imagine.

They’re talking up to 1000 upgrades next year. I’m guessing as a late ‘15 hire that this year will be my last year bidding vacation as a FO (unless I bypass). Prob looking at summer next year which would be a 7.5 yr upgrade (all dependent on economy, Max 7, and where vacancies are)

05-26-2022, 06:33 AM

#1453

hoover

At your mom's house

Joined APC: Jun 2008

Position: cpt 737

Posts: 2,797

Wow I didn't hear the 1000 upgrades rumor.

05-26-2022, 06:34 AM

#1454

Threefourzero

New Hire

Joined APC: Dec 2019

Posts: 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450

A few years.

thank you!

05-26-2022, 06:41 AM

#1455

Smooth at FL450

weekends off? Nope...

Joined APC: Apr 2014

Posts: 2,021

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoover

Wow I didn't hear the 1000 upgrades rumor.

along with 2000 new hires. That’s been the word lately…and todays 8-k shows no slowing down, with strong bookings and increased revenue outpacing increased costs.

05-26-2022, 09:16 AM

#1456

ZapBrannigan

Furloughed Again?!

Joined APC: Aug 2007

Position: Boeing 737

Posts: 4,804

According to someone on the SWAPA forums, 996 FOs(!) are bypassing upgrade right now. That’s an astonishing number.

05-26-2022, 09:26 AM

#1457

AJ311

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Joined APC: Dec 2021

Posts: 115

Has anyone been keeping track of where the plug CA lands on a percentage basis?

If we add another 800-900 this year and “2000” next year (doubtful) that bypass ## could get pretty high.

05-26-2022, 09:35 AM

#1458

ZapBrannigan

Furloughed Again?!

Joined APC: Aug 2007

Position: Boeing 737

Posts: 4,804

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ311

Has anyone been keeping track of where the plug CA lands on a percentage basis?

If we add another 800-900 this year and “2000” next year (doubtful) that bypass ## could get pretty high.

Around 62%-63% system seniority.

05-26-2022, 09:38 AM

#1459

AJ311

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Joined APC: Dec 2021

Posts: 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

Around 62%-63% system seniority.

I’ve only been around ~4 years, is that pretty historical or did it change when ETOPS/LA became a thing?

BTW- Congrats on having to buy some BBQ.

05-26-2022, 10:14 AM

#1460

Stitches

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Joined APC: Oct 2011

Posts: 374

It’s been 62%/1000 bypassing FO’s ever since the AT integration. Covid artificially dropped the number of by passers due to the VSP which is why I thought the upgrades would drop so junior as we reverted to the historical norm.