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05-20-2022, 07:26 AM
#1391
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Eeyore, let's look at this from the cheapskate airline pilot perspective.
You could possibly hold OAK this summer as a captain because it just might suck being a plug - think ZFW issues, commute, OAK, age 70, you name it. That alone triggers the Hard 8's clause which also precludes mommy's gift cards. And if you bypass this time and this goes senior the next bid period and if for whatever reason, you can't hold it, you're definitely on the hook for BBQ AND stuck in the right seat again. You don't wanna do that because by the time you're done paying the tab, you'll wish you had upgraded.
100% CA everywhere!
You could possibly hold OAK this summer as a captain because it just might suck being a plug - think ZFW issues, commute, OAK, age 70, you name it. That alone triggers the Hard 8's clause which also precludes mommy's gift cards. And if you bypass this time and this goes senior the next bid period and if for whatever reason, you can't hold it, you're definitely on the hook for BBQ AND stuck in the right seat again. You don't wanna do that because by the time you're done paying the tab, you'll wish you had upgraded.
100% CA everywhere!
05-20-2022, 07:29 AM
#1392
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,963
Which brings up an interesting question for you guys. What do you think about bidding for an upgrade in a month that you know you have vacation? Contract says that you don’t have to go to school during vacation, but talked with SRC and they said that the company would try to strong arm you into either moving your vacation, or cashing it out. Reason being we don’t have “alternates” in our CBA, so if you choose not to go that vacancy goes unfilled which is a problem for training scheduling, but also takes a vacancy from someone who might have actually wanted to be there.
Im in the same boat as you, I have vacation in June, July, and August. Next month I’m available is September, but by then as E6B said, it’ll be back to being way senior to me. And then there’s the age 67 monkey wrench that could grind everything to a halt real fast. (Insert Eeyore image here)
Im in the same boat as you, I have vacation in June, July, and August. Next month I’m available is September, but by then as E6B said, it’ll be back to being way senior to me. And then there’s the age 67 monkey wrench that could grind everything to a halt real fast. (Insert Eeyore image here)
05-20-2022, 07:40 AM
#1393
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,802
Which brings up an interesting question for you guys. What do you think about bidding for an upgrade in a month that you know you have vacation? Contract says that you don’t have to go to school during vacation, but talked with SRC and they said that the company would try to strong arm you into either moving your vacation, or cashing it out. Reason being we don’t have “alternates” in our CBA, so if you choose not to go that vacancy goes unfilled which is a problem for training scheduling, but also takes a vacancy from someone who might have actually wanted to be there.
Im in the same boat as you, I have vacation in June, July, and August. Next month I’m available is September, but by then as E6B said, it’ll be back to being way senior to me. And then there’s the age 67 monkey wrench that could grind everything to a halt real fast. (Insert Eeyore image here)
Im in the same boat as you, I have vacation in June, July, and August. Next month I’m available is September, but by then as E6B said, it’ll be back to being way senior to me. And then there’s the age 67 monkey wrench that could grind everything to a halt real fast. (Insert Eeyore image here)
If it’s in the contract that they can’t send you to training during a vacation month then who cares if they’ll try to “strong arm” you. Eff that.
Same thing for when they try to move me up for CQT. Homie don’t play that. My base month is my base month for a reason. There are alternate “creative” ways that I make sure I stay in my base month.
They have no qualms about utilizing creative contract interpretations and practices and neither should you. If they don’t like it then maybe they can come to the table and actually be open to a full rewrite.
5th & 20th.
05-20-2022, 08:00 AM
#1394
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,786
05-20-2022, 08:24 AM
#1396
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,919
Which brings up an interesting question for you guys. What do you think about bidding for an upgrade in a month that you know you have vacation? Contract says that you don’t have to go to school during vacation, but talked with SRC and they said that the company would try to strong arm you into either moving your vacation, or cashing it out. Reason being we don’t have “alternates” in our CBA, so if you choose not to go that vacancy goes unfilled which is a problem for training scheduling, but also takes a vacancy from someone who might have actually wanted to be there.
Im in the same boat as you, I have vacation in June, July, and August. Next month I’m available is September, but by then as E6B said, it’ll be back to being way senior to me. And then there’s the age 67 monkey wrench that could grind everything to a halt real fast. (Insert Eeyore image here)
Im in the same boat as you, I have vacation in June, July, and August. Next month I’m available is September, but by then as E6B said, it’ll be back to being way senior to me. And then there’s the age 67 monkey wrench that could grind everything to a halt real fast. (Insert Eeyore image here)
05-20-2022, 09:28 AM
#1397
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
Eeyore, let's look at this from the cheapskate airline pilot perspective.
You could possibly hold OAK this summer as a captain because it just might suck being a plug - think ZFW issues, commute, OAK, age 70, you name it. That alone triggers the Hard 8's clause which also precludes mommy's gift cards. And if you bypass this time and this goes senior the next bid period and if for whatever reason, you can't hold it, you're definitely on the hook for BBQ AND stuck in the right seat again. You don't wanna do that because by the time you're done paying the tab, you'll wish you had upgraded.
100% CA everywhere!
You could possibly hold OAK this summer as a captain because it just might suck being a plug - think ZFW issues, commute, OAK, age 70, you name it. That alone triggers the Hard 8's clause which also precludes mommy's gift cards. And if you bypass this time and this goes senior the next bid period and if for whatever reason, you can't hold it, you're definitely on the hook for BBQ AND stuck in the right seat again. You don't wanna do that because by the time you're done paying the tab, you'll wish you had upgraded.
100% CA everywhere!
Looks like I’m also going to owe Stitches a $50 Visa gift card. Stitches drop me a PM with your details and I’ll get that on its way to you as soon as the bid closes with a 2014 hire in the seat.
It ain’t over until the fat lady sings though, and though I admit it looks like you’re going to walk away with this one, let’s just see what happens.
05-20-2022, 11:55 AM
#1399
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,919
There’s a Lance Projection tool thing in the SRC page on SWAPA site. Will tell how many in each base, etc. So you can use your seniority number and figure where you’d be in different bases to see if you’re close. I’m bidding CA 100% in my base so not sure which will happen first.
05-20-2022, 02:34 PM
#1400
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 374
Oh, you’ll get your cursed BBQ you charlatan! I hope you choke on a delicious beef rib! 😉
Looks like I’m also going to owe Stitches a $50 Visa gift card. Stitches drop me a PM with your details and I’ll get that on its way to you as soon as the bid closes with a 2014 hire in the seat.
It ain’t over until the fat lady sings though, and though I admit it looks like you’re going to walk away with this one, let’s just see what happens.
Looks like I’m also going to owe Stitches a $50 Visa gift card. Stitches drop me a PM with your details and I’ll get that on its way to you as soon as the bid closes with a 2014 hire in the seat.
It ain’t over until the fat lady sings though, and though I admit it looks like you’re going to walk away with this one, let’s just see what happens.
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