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01-01-2022, 09:40 PM
#1151
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
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Zap I’m sure you are senior to me but I see your wheels turning. I’m a seven year guy that will bid for a junior upgrade since it will be west coast. I’ll commute for it. My kids are finishing high school, one in college, and I’m a divorcee with amicable terms. I’m 46, so I figure if I go out long term sick it’s the biggest benefit. That and I’ve been a 121 FO for nearly 14 years not including my 9 years of corporate flying. I’m ready for a change. Just do it!
I’m waiting til I can hold it in my base. I’m done commuting. I live in DEN and am bidding 40% so with the gate expansion….who knows.
01-02-2022, 12:49 AM
#1152
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
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Zap I’m sure you are senior to me but I see your wheels turning. I’m a seven year guy that will bid for a junior upgrade since it will be west coast. I’ll commute for it. My kids are finishing high school, one in college, and I’m a divorcee with amicable terms. I’m 46, so I figure if I go out long term sick it’s the biggest benefit. That and I’ve been a 121 FO for nearly 14 years not including my 9 years of corporate flying. I’m ready for a change. Just do it!
Yeah, my wheels are turning. Just trying to think it all through. I'm 48, been here about 8 years. I'm married with a 15 year old son. I've been flying for a living since 1996, a bunch of airlines, a bunch of furloughs and some corporate flying and I've never had the opportunity to upgrade under part 121. Maybe it sounds lame, but after doing this for 26 years, I want to be a Captain.
so I've been thinking about this a lot. You're right about the sick time of course. My Dad was an airline pilot and my first CFI. He's 76 and I sure would like to upgrade while he's still alive to see it.
On the other hand, Oakland looks like a bear of a commute from the middle of the country. Is it nuts to want to commute from one domicile to another to sit weekend reserve? Will my son resent me doing that and missing out on college tours and competitions etc during the last couple years of high school? If I don't do it, will I resent him for holding me back?
What if there's another black swan event that creates stagnation or backwards movement for another half decade? A merger? Age 70? Would I regret not taking it when I had the chance if that happened?
I want to do it while I'm young enough to enjoy it. I'm at that age where I'm seeing an old man in the mirror and wondering where the time went.
I'm still 500-1000 numbers out so it's most likely still a year or two away - but with the ETOPS seat lock as the monkey wrench that might create some additional bypassers, I just don't want to be caught by surprise and end up upgrading this summer or next without being comfortable with my vacancy bid regardless of what happens.
01-02-2022, 02:34 AM
#1153
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 251
You will pretty much be on weekend PM reserve. Which you can commute from the middle of the country on the day of. On the last day well that depends on the city pair your commuting to. For me utilizing SFO I can usually get back home on the last day. But the last day is the tuff one cause it involves a red eye.
01-02-2022, 02:41 AM
#1154
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
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You will pretty much be on weekend PM reserve. Which you can commute from the middle of the country on the day of. On the last day well that depends on the city pair your commuting to. For me utilizing SFO I can usually get back home on the last day. But the last day is the tuff one cause it involves a red eye.
I imaging some of that Hawaii PM flying results in the equivalent of a redeye - arriving in the islands at 3 or 4am Central? Is that tough to acclimate to?
How is it getting over to SFO? Do you use BART?
01-02-2022, 02:49 AM
#1155
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 251
Honestly they are tuff. You never get used to them really. If you get AM Hawaii trips they are the best. At night I use Uber or Lyft expect about 40 bucks to get over there.
01-02-2022, 04:00 AM
#1156
Gets Weekend Reserve
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,774
Yeah, my wheels are turning. Just trying to think it all through. I'm 48, been here about 8 years. I'm married with a 15 year old son. I've been flying for a living since 1996, a bunch of airlines, a bunch of furloughs and some corporate flying and I've never had the opportunity to upgrade under part 121. Maybe it sounds lame, but after doing this for 26 years, I want to be a Captain.
so I've been thinking about this a lot. You're right about the sick time of course. My Dad was an airline pilot and my first CFI. He's 76 and I sure would like to upgrade while he's still alive to see it.
On the other hand, Oakland looks like a bear of a commute from the middle of the country. Is it nuts to want to commute from one domicile to another to sit weekend reserve? Will my son resent me doing that and missing out on college tours and competitions etc during the last couple years of high school? If I don't do it, will I resent him for holding me back?
What if there's another black swan event that creates stagnation or backwards movement for another half decade? A merger? Age 70? Would I regret not taking it when I had the chance if that happened?
I want to do it while I'm young enough to enjoy it. I'm at that age where I'm seeing an old man in the mirror and wondering where the time went.
I'm still 500-1000 numbers out so it's most likely still a year or two away - but with the ETOPS seat lock as the monkey wrench that might create some additional bypassers, I just don't want to be caught by surprise and end up upgrading this summer or next without being comfortable with my vacancy bid regardless of what happens.
so I've been thinking about this a lot. You're right about the sick time of course. My Dad was an airline pilot and my first CFI. He's 76 and I sure would like to upgrade while he's still alive to see it.
On the other hand, Oakland looks like a bear of a commute from the middle of the country. Is it nuts to want to commute from one domicile to another to sit weekend reserve? Will my son resent me doing that and missing out on college tours and competitions etc during the last couple years of high school? If I don't do it, will I resent him for holding me back?
What if there's another black swan event that creates stagnation or backwards movement for another half decade? A merger? Age 70? Would I regret not taking it when I had the chance if that happened?
I want to do it while I'm young enough to enjoy it. I'm at that age where I'm seeing an old man in the mirror and wondering where the time went.
I'm still 500-1000 numbers out so it's most likely still a year or two away - but with the ETOPS seat lock as the monkey wrench that might create some additional bypassers, I just don't want to be caught by surprise and end up upgrading this summer or next without being comfortable with my vacancy bid regardless of what happens.
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