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04-27-2021, 11:07 AM
#91
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 833
We had PBS and I would never go back to that. But the rumor that PBS takes away all vacation flexibility is totally false. I was middle seniority and routinely converted one week to twenty-one days easily. It’s all in the rules you negotiate and how well you know your system. But again, I would never be in favor of going back to PBS.
However, trying to explain the nuances of PBS on the line is as fruitless as ****ing into the wind. When I start to hear "My neighbor at United said PBS work work work work..." - I just smile, nod, and turn of my mic.
04-27-2021, 02:06 PM
#95
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,803
04-27-2021, 02:28 PM
#96
gets time off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,234
You guys must be in Colorado to think we will get remotely close to other contracts. This pilot group flinches at Mr Kelly so fast it’s pathetic. Remember 38% of our esteemed colleagues had such low regard for the profession. They would have taken TA1. Heck I’ve flown with a 1221 that was happy to help if he needed to be furloughed. Almost giddy about it. SWAPULL isn’t doing any favors squashing the forum either. Remember who took part in the SLI negotiations? I have little faith in today’s SWApA.
04-28-2021, 04:00 AM
#97
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2020
Position: Admiral of the Galley
Posts: 63
Depending on your work rules vacation could even be better under PBS than our current system. If you could bid a four day, 30 off, then a four day all during your vacation week and have vacation drop calculated AFTER the bid, your vacation would pay more. Then you could bid weekday trips the rest of the month and not need to spend you vacation months hawking CWA in a desperate attempt to make some kind of trade to get of Friday-Sunday AMs for the weeks you work.
However, trying to explain the nuances of PBS on the line is as fruitless as ****ing into the wind. When I start to hear "My neighbor at United said PBS work work work work..." - I just smile, nod, and turn of my mic.
However, trying to explain the nuances of PBS on the line is as fruitless as ****ing into the wind. When I start to hear "My neighbor at United said PBS work work work work..." - I just smile, nod, and turn of my mic.
04-28-2021, 04:44 AM
#98
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,030
Originally Posted by mulcher;[url=tel:3227405
3227405[/url]]You guys must be in Colorado to think we will get remotely close to other contracts. This pilot group flinches at Mr Kelly so fast it’s pathetic. Remember 38% of our esteemed colleagues had such low regard for the profession. They would have taken TA1. Heck I’ve flown with a 1221 that was happy to help if he needed to be furloughed. Almost giddy about it. SWAPULL isn’t doing any favors squashing the forum either. Remember who took part in the SLI negotiations? I have little faith in today’s SWApA.
04-28-2021, 04:48 AM
#99
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2020
Position: Admiral of the Galley
Posts: 63
Welcome to Special Unit 1221. Your Commander was applying to a factory job putting together power tools. And signed up for Door Dash.
04-28-2021, 04:51 AM
#100
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,030
Originally Posted by Proximity;[url=[url
tel:3227323]3227323]Depending[/url] on your work rules vacation could even be better under PBS than our current system. If you could bid a four day, 30 off, then a four day all during your vacation week and have vacation drop calculated AFTER the bid, your vacation would pay more. Then you could bid weekday trips the rest of the month and not need to spend you vacation months hawking CWA in a desperate attempt to make some kind of trade to get of Friday-Sunday AMs for the weeks you work.
However, trying to explain the nuances of PBS on the line is as fruitless as ****ing into the wind. When I start to hear "My neighbor at United said PBS work work work work..." - I just smile, nod, and turn of my mic.
However, trying to explain the nuances of PBS on the line is as fruitless as ****ing into the wind. When I start to hear "My neighbor at United said PBS work work work work..." - I just smile, nod, and turn of my mic.
What people don’t understand here is you don’t bid “lines”, but bid individual trips to custom build your own line. That’s hard for them to visualize.
That said, even though we had the best PBS in the industry, I would not give up what we have here. I would just like to see some changes in initial line improvement and open-time/give-away.
