4V14T0R

Psychic Wage.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

ZapBrannigan

Yeah. That was it. Thank you!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

LUVisLost

While I agree a pay raise and rather large one is needed I do disagree with the statement of coming inflation. I have heard that song and dance every time debt is added under a D but when the debt is added under a R I never hear about it. In addition inflations greatest cause is caused by rising wages and not national debt. Rising wages is NOT a problem right now. Any CPI increase will most likely be short lived as stimulus money is spent. The US debt sales are still quite brisk so buyers disagree with your statement t. The Fed chair disagrees and the Treasury Sec disagrees. Of course you are a pilot so you know better...

LAXtoDEN

And you know what our current inflation is? The fed chair measures inflation with his magic ruler and claims “everything is fine, nothing to see here”. With the insane amount of spending I hope our GDP not only picks up to 2019 pre-COVID, but outpaces the mark (EXTREMELY unlikely). Increasing tax on corporations hurts GDP growth. We’re currently in a speculative market, reality is approaching, expect a severe market pullback and inflation spike.

jetset

I disagree. In June we only have 800 or so EXTOs to recall. They can do that in a few months. We will be profitable by the end of the year and probably hiring again soon. Upgrades will come back quickly as well.

DanMarino

What’s the ball park on that? Just curious what some guys see as cut off to stay put..

GearAlarm

So CPLie will decrease as the stimies are spent...? Lol. Carry on. The fed says all is well. We do agree on one thing... pilots think they know better.

Skylarking

I'm just one guy, but I'm a 52 y.o. regional pilot with apps everywhere (and a major CJO). I'm hoping to make the jump from my regional to a ULCC/LCC/legacy, but I'll pull the parking brake and focus on building seniority at my next company. At 52 it makes sense for me to move on from my regional but I'm also junior. I'm sure lots of folks at my age wouldn't leave their regional if they have seniority. I'm not sure it makes sense for anyone to move from one ULCC/LCC/legacy to another in your 50's unless your current company has no domicile where you live. But as always, YMMV.

ZapBrannigan

My cut off to be at my "destination" airline was 40 and I made it 3 months after my 40th birthday. Mostly wanted time in the left seat to squirrel away money for retirement. I turn 48 this year and there are still around 1600 FOs senior to me, and only a couple hundred retirements per year.

Hoped I could upgrade by 50, but that seems overly optimistic. Maybe by 55? Sad to think that after doing this since I was 23 years old I could finish with only 10-12 years in the left seat. (Presuming I can hold a medical that long)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

saab2000

I was pretty senior at a regional when I left. I never stopped trying and got hired at Sun Country when it became clear that the big legacies weren't likely to hire me after updating my apps monthly for a decade or more and attending career fairs, etc. Admittedly, I didn't have certain resumé builders like a masters degree or chief pilot experience or even check airman titles. I was just a regular, high-hour captain on the CRJ.

Even at my age of 49 at the time it was still worth it. First, I have pretty deep ties to the Twin Cities so it was happy for me to make a change to be there. And even though they're not a major airline really, they fly larger equipment, which was something I wanted to do. So even with the pay cut I made the jump. Then on a whim about 7 months in I filled out the Southwest application and stunningly, to me at least, interviewed and was offered a job. I had never for one minute considered Southwest Airlines as a destination for myself. But it has been a mostly good experience and I'm glad to be here.

I have been here now 4 years and I'm 54 years old. I hope to upgrade before I call it quits. I'm currently out on the ExTO leave but expect to be recalled far sooner than the 5 years I opted to take off, maybe I'll even be back in 2021.

The bottom line is that at this age stability was more important to me than overall earning potential. I don't live an extravagant lifestyle and have no family, so I don't need a huge pay. The extra money is nice though. It's better than a regional by the time you're on 2nd year pay. I moved to domicile because I can't stand commuting and all that goes with it but everyone has their own decision to make.

I don't regret coming to Southwest for a second and recommend making a change if possible if for no other reason than career stability but you need to know about your own airline. The one I was at has been stable for decades but operates old CRJs and I don't know that any regional other than Skywest has a 'guaranteed' future. Obviously, there are zero guarantees in life and especially in aviation, but I wanted as much stability as possible in the latter part of my career and Southwest seems to be providing that.

Starting over with good seniority and as an older pilot isn't easy but for me it's been 100% worth it. I sleep better at night knowing my company will likely exist next week and next month. Most regionals can't be quite as certain about that.