SWA WARN letters to pilots
#132
People aren’t really getting anything for free. It’s just rolled up into the fare. Charge bag fees and pretty soon that’s one more thing that differentiates the product from the competitors that’s gone. Personally, I feel changing this would be a mistake but I’ll leave that to others who get paid to make those decisions.
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First of all, I'm sorry you and others got the warn letters. Secondly, I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not gonna argue what would judge's ruling be in the case you presented. I'm trying to bring 2 logical arguments that in my opinion would discourage the company to sue in the first place, (that's provided they actually furlough and then the pilots collectively stop picking up trips - both premises highly questionable in my opinion).
1. SWAPA's counter argument: Of course our pilots pick up less open time. We have X number of furloughs, Y number of downgrades, and Z number of voluntary long term leaves. We have significantly less active pilots, thus significantly less picking up.
1. SWAPA's counter argument: Of course our pilots pick up less open time. We have X number of furloughs, Y number of downgrades, and Z number of voluntary long term leaves. We have significantly less active pilots, thus significantly less picking up.
2. I think GK with his management is not interested in starting a "war" with the labor groups. They should already be in the damage control mode. Even if they end up not furloughing a single employee, the damage to the morale and management/employees relations already suffered greatly. Any legal action against the labor would just exacerbate the problem and further damage already fragile trust relationship.
Maybe I'm naive, but that's how I see it.
https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/...pilots-as.html
After 2016, they SHOULD have been in damage control mode... and then they brought CK onboard to deal with pilots, and let the grievances piled up to 150+. Making an argument of the meaning of "etc." to define IROPS? Does this sound like a company in a damage control mode or the one that actually cares? And then Gary answers very clearly where his priorities lie, and that's with the shareholders, and absolutely not with employees. The quote has been posted earlier in the thread...
The company speaks a good line, just like the abusive husband who beats the ever living crap out of his wife, but brings her flowers and keeps reminding her how much he really loves her while giving her fresh new bruises. But hey... FAMILY, right?
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Do they send a SWAT team to the house and zip tie them? Drive them to airport and hold a gun to their head?
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I don’t know that there’s a cause of action under the RLA for the company to sue an individual pilot represented by the union for participating in a concerted effort to change the status quo.
I doubt it’d be successful but there might be a private, civil cause of action available to act against individual pilots if their actions could be proven to have harmed the union or a class of individuals within the union. The bottom line is they’re not likely to come after any one individual unless you’re a union leader. But your individual actions like not picking up open time like you used to or calling in sick more often might end up hurting everyone within the union.
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