VIDEO: Dave Ramsey slams SWA union
10-15-2020, 11:11 AM
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 231
Please tell those folks that as far as “optics” they can kiss my pale white a$$. They’re not the one that had to pay the dues that we paid ($16.18/hr flying RJs, flying cargo in less than safe conditions, etc., etc.). The Lost Decade.
Quite frankly I could give two $7its about the “optics”. I’m a fixed cost to the airline. Attorneys charge XXX/hr. So do I and I advocate that to be a respectable hourly wage.
FUPM
Quite frankly I could give two $7its about the “optics”. I’m a fixed cost to the airline. Attorneys charge XXX/hr. So do I and I advocate that to be a respectable hourly wage.
FUPM
10-15-2020, 11:23 AM
#42
More Cowbell!!!
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: Spreading the LUV from the "Write" seat!!!
Posts: 346
SWA can’t unilaterally change the pay rates. It would have to be approved by the membership. I’d hope the membership would vote down any other changes in pay for the guys/gals that helped out by taking EXTO....
10-15-2020, 12:04 PM
#43
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,789
correct. This is a sideletter that we will vote on. I’m about to start year six and still consider myself in the furlough zone. Strong no vote.
10-15-2020, 02:07 PM
#44
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,264
Beware the “go for the moon” or whatever you might call it negotiating strategy from the company of throwing in the ridiculous force majeure clause that their advisors at FordHarrison no doubt told them to include in their demand. Then, during negotiations, they fight “really hard” and give up the force majeure clause. A majority of the pilot group is so relieved, they agree to the 10% TFP cut as long as the company “promises” not to furlough. Note that there’s no language this company won’t attempt to subvert. The NC pointed out at today’s SWAPA Q and A that even the arbitrator complained that SWA plays “cute” with our contractual language.
In a previous life, at the opening of Section 6, the company threw in a demand that pilots be held personally responsible financially for any damage they caused the company. That was an obviously egregious stipulation they knew would never end up in any final language but it made the pilots feel like they’d won something when the company dropped it later on. Don’t let that happen here.
In a previous life, at the opening of Section 6, the company threw in a demand that pilots be held personally responsible financially for any damage they caused the company. That was an obviously egregious stipulation they knew would never end up in any final language but it made the pilots feel like they’d won something when the company dropped it later on. Don’t let that happen here.
10-15-2020, 02:46 PM
#45
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,920
If you’re not doing any work for the company, I’d prob look for ways to stop paying you if I was mgt.
10-15-2020, 02:54 PM
#46
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,803
Sounds like you flew iced up piston twins as well. In any event, the history will not be explained and our pay will not be sympathized with. Just a fact. I’m not arguing with the merits of your post, it will just fall on deaf ears. The fact remains that the public, and our cohearts will just see we refused to a measly 10% to save our jobs. That’s the flag being flown.
10-15-2020, 03:05 PM
#47
Furloughed Again?!
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Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
10-15-2020, 03:41 PM
#49
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,226
Didn’t LUV pay people to go on extended leaves? For years? What do you call that?
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