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Old 10-14-2020, 09:44 AM
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Or if he was talking about 117 and ORD.....in that case it doesn’t matter since ORD won’t work. Although I thought block time was less than 9 on that leg so. Not sure what 117 issue there is if the plane could make it...
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Old 10-14-2020, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Or if he was talking about 117 and ORD.....in that case it doesn’t matter since ORD won’t work. Although I thought block time was less than 9 on that leg so. Not sure what 117 issue there is if the plane could make it...
you could still do it with heavy crew and rest facilities
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Originally Posted by Noconcessions
I really believe UAL and AA are mortally wounded. Maybe not in the sense of absolute extinction, but perhaps each at no more than 50% of their former selves. We go to places like STL, PHX, DEN, BNA etc. and we are 5-10 tails for every one of the other companies. Our concourses and gates have semi-normal numbers of passengers, they're gates are closed or empty. TSA Throughput is rising rapidly and we are capturing traffic. If we play hardball, we may own half of the domestic market.
Need to swivel your head in DEN a little more. For August, last numbers given, UAL flew 130,000 more pax then swa . We aren't dead yet.

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Need to swivel your head in DEN a little more. For August, last numbers given, UAL flew 130,000 more pax then swa . We aren't dead yet.

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All mainline or you counting RJ’s?
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All mainline or you counting RJ’s?
Doesn't matter, it all goes into bottom line. No different then heating oil contracts going into bottom line.

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Old 10-14-2020, 07:06 PM
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There is a rumor on a Chicago based blog that the city is quietly exploring the sale of Midway “and the number one candidate to buy it is Jeff Bezos at a now dramatically cut rate price.” Some are saying that SWA is aware of this and ORD is a way to hedge its bets.
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Old 10-15-2020, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
Doesn't matter, it all goes into bottom line. No different then heating oil contracts going into bottom line.

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Remember that , You can not have it both ways. I wish you guys the best, but you seem to fine with all the code share and giving away your flying .
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Remember that , You can not have it both ways. I wish you guys the best, but you seem to fine with all the code share and giving away your flying .
Thank you for your concern. We actually have our scope where we want it currently. The cities you see those RJs flying to out of DEN are not cities where you guy and us currently compete. I’m sure the airport authority reports (broken out by individual airline/regional partner) departures/arrivals and I’m fairly certain we are not giving up Denver to anyone. If you are passing through DEN between UAL departure banks I can see how you might think we have shut the hub down. I passed through earlier this week from Billings and on to Florida and we were full of both passengers and gates. Had to park at the C concourse where we have a gate (the one just West of the ramp tower) that we have been using for around a year now.
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:20 PM
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:29 AM
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Looks like SWA beat UA + regionals in originating and destination pax. The only thing UA has on SWA in DEN is transfer pax, which makes sense given the regional network. SWA gained a 3.5% market share, UA lost a 3.0% market share. Yep, nothing to see here!
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