SWA adding service to ORD ...
#32
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Expect the company to step up the fear level. In fact, I’m hoping for a WARN notice so I can show it to future new hires that have drank a little too much company koolaid. But at the end of the day for multiple reasons already mentioned a furlough is not going to happen.
#33
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Fortunately the yearly discussion about green bars and LG that used to occur every January 11th is over. If you don’t understand your LG by now we can’t help you.
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Back in 19 networking planning mentioned ORD and said they would be dying to get in there but UA/AA are making sure that doesn't happen. The North Chicago/Illinois and Southern Wisconsin market being a huge group they're not able to attract to Midway because it's "too far" We asked about DFW and that was met with a pretty quick dismissal, with the metro area there having both easily accessible by either side of the town because of the way the city is set up, but who knows now with legacies where they are, never say never?
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D/FW
I have seen a couple references to DFW.
Remember, per the 5 party agreement (Dallas, Fort Worth, the DFW Airport Board, American Airlines and Southwest):
Until 2025, for every gate that Southwest acquires or uses at another airport within 80 miles of Love Field, Southwest must relinquish one gate at Love Field.
So I would think DFW is still off the table for at least a few years.
Remember, per the 5 party agreement (Dallas, Fort Worth, the DFW Airport Board, American Airlines and Southwest):
Until 2025, for every gate that Southwest acquires or uses at another airport within 80 miles of Love Field, Southwest must relinquish one gate at Love Field.
So I would think DFW is still off the table for at least a few years.
Last edited by SWAFA; 10-13-2020 at 06:38 AM. Reason: spelling
#37
I truly hope there are no mergers, there’s too much opportunity to expand without them, and with the current situation plenty of pilots to staff expansion.
#38
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probably, but whoever we might merge with would have had to refuse the loans as well. GK told the shareholders the reason they refused the $7.5b loan was to avoid dividend and stock buy-back restrictions.
I truly hope there are no mergers, there’s too much opportunity to expand without them, and with the current situation plenty of pilots to staff expansion.
I truly hope there are no mergers, there’s too much opportunity to expand without them, and with the current situation plenty of pilots to staff expansion.
#39
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Personally, I am glad to see us going into O'Hare. In my prior commercial flying job, I was based there for 6 years. When I was there, albeit, 10 years ago, the O'Hare controllers were the absolute best anywhere in the USA. Hands down. Gorgeous, long runways. "Standard" taxi in procedure was: just keep moving your aircraft, don't hit anything or anyone, observe the flow of traffic around the inner and outer loop taxiways, use your taxi light to communicate with other aircraft . . . . a true thing of common sense and beauty.
I suspect some of our "legacy" Captains will have problems with O'Hare.
Also, I never felt like O'Hare was in anyway a "dangerous" airport. Midway, is a major catastrophe waiting to happen. Hot summer day . . . heavy weight . . . . flaps 25. . . . . you know exactly what I am talking about. It may be "legal" but that is about all it is. . . .
I suspect some of our "legacy" Captains will have problems with O'Hare.
Also, I never felt like O'Hare was in anyway a "dangerous" airport. Midway, is a major catastrophe waiting to happen. Hot summer day . . . heavy weight . . . . flaps 25. . . . . you know exactly what I am talking about. It may be "legal" but that is about all it is. . . .
#40
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I really believe UAL and AA are mortally wounded. Maybe not in the sense of absolute extinction, but perhaps each at no more than 50% of their former selves. We go to places like STL, PHX, DEN, BNA etc. and we are 5-10 tails for every one of the other companies. Our concourses and gates have semi-normal numbers of passengers, they're gates are closed or empty. TSA Throughput is rising rapidly and we are capturing traffic. If we play hardball, we may own half of the domestic market.
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