Junior Base?
12-26-2021, 10:06 AM
#101
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 104
I wouldn’t worry about a crashpad until you know what base you’re in. With a fly preference the likelihood you spend a entire rsv block unused is low. I had a crashpad in LAS, but that was sitting rsv under the old contract.
Depending on the base, hotels will eat up a huge chunk of your paycheck. I think MDW is prob the best base for crashpads and not needing a car. LAS is prob the best for cheap hotels.
crew-tel has contracted rates with hotels at most of our bases or you can always call the crew hotel and see what the swa rate is.
Depending on the base, hotels will eat up a huge chunk of your paycheck. I think MDW is prob the best base for crashpads and not needing a car. LAS is prob the best for cheap hotels.
crew-tel has contracted rates with hotels at most of our bases or you can always call the crew hotel and see what the swa rate is.
12-26-2021, 10:44 AM
#103
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 55
I’ve been reading up on what life’s like as a newbie.. that being said I haven’t seen much in the terms of crashpads. Considering the flexibility, covid, hiring,etc. do you think it’s worth getting on a waiting list? Or would money be better spent on hotels given how much you’re used on reserve?
FWIW I’ll be commuting from BNA
FWIW I’ll be commuting from BNA
You could always play it month to month and start with hotel. If it gets too expensive, start looking for a crashpad.
12-26-2021, 10:46 AM
#104
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I did a crashpad when first hired out of Houston. If I had to do it again I wouldn’t and would just get a hotel. The amount of money you save isn’t that significant. The convenience factor (and safety factor- walking to crashpad in questionable area) wasn’t worth it.
You could always play it month to month and start with hotel. If it gets too expensive, start looking for a crashpad.
You could always play it month to month and start with hotel. If it gets too expensive, start looking for a crashpad.
12-27-2021, 10:15 AM
#105
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 13
How long to hold MCO? Considering leaving G4 but I refuse to commute long term and don't have any desire to move.
Trying to decide if SWA would be better for me, y'all make significantly more than I can currently.
Right now I'm looking at indefinite reserve, indefinite working on weekends, upgrade is basically never unless I change bases and move which I don't want to do, and terrible management that regularly violates the contract.
I know MCO upgrade is long but its a moot point since its the same deal if I stay where I am. I'm really just looking at compensation and schedule and wondering if its worth it to make the switch and start from the bottom again.
Trying to decide if SWA would be better for me, y'all make significantly more than I can currently.
Right now I'm looking at indefinite reserve, indefinite working on weekends, upgrade is basically never unless I change bases and move which I don't want to do, and terrible management that regularly violates the contract.
I know MCO upgrade is long but its a moot point since its the same deal if I stay where I am. I'm really just looking at compensation and schedule and wondering if its worth it to make the switch and start from the bottom again.
12-27-2021, 01:52 PM
#106
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,796
How long to hold MCO? Considering leaving G4 but I refuse to commute long term and don't have any desire to move.
Trying to decide if SWA would be better for me, y'all make significantly more than I can currently.
Right now I'm looking at indefinite reserve, indefinite working on weekends, upgrade is basically never unless I change bases and move which I don't want to do, and terrible management that regularly violates the contract.
I know MCO upgrade is long but its a moot point since its the same deal if I stay where I am. I'm really just looking at compensation and schedule and wondering if its worth it to make the switch and start from the bottom again.
Trying to decide if SWA would be better for me, y'all make significantly more than I can currently.
Right now I'm looking at indefinite reserve, indefinite working on weekends, upgrade is basically never unless I change bases and move which I don't want to do, and terrible management that regularly violates the contract.
I know MCO upgrade is long but its a moot point since its the same deal if I stay where I am. I'm really just looking at compensation and schedule and wondering if its worth it to make the switch and start from the bottom again.
12-27-2021, 02:54 PM
#107
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 54
How long to hold MCO? Considering leaving G4 but I refuse to commute long term and don't have any desire to move.
Trying to decide if SWA would be better for me, y'all make significantly more than I can currently.
Right now I'm looking at indefinite reserve, indefinite working on weekends, upgrade is basically never unless I change bases and move which I don't want to do, and terrible management that regularly violates the contract.
I know MCO upgrade is long but its a moot point since its the same deal if I stay where I am. I'm really just looking at compensation and schedule and wondering if its worth it to make the switch and start from the bottom again.
Trying to decide if SWA would be better for me, y'all make significantly more than I can currently.
Right now I'm looking at indefinite reserve, indefinite working on weekends, upgrade is basically never unless I change bases and move which I don't want to do, and terrible management that regularly violates the contract.
I know MCO upgrade is long but its a moot point since its the same deal if I stay where I am. I'm really just looking at compensation and schedule and wondering if its worth it to make the switch and start from the bottom again.
which G4 base do you call home?
12-27-2021, 08:13 PM
#109
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,721
Guessing SFB.
MCO is perennially senior. Once the new hires really start flowing in, there will be a junior cohort that starts working it's way in to MCO. Last big new hire wave, we eventually had guys hold it in their first month.
Upgrade is always and forever going to be long in Orlando. There will always be older captains moving to that area as long as taxes are low and the weather is nice. There just isn't much movement off the top and so it gets really stagnant, especially on the captain side.
12-27-2021, 09:46 PM
#110
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 13
Guessing SFB.
MCO is perennially senior. Once the new hires really start flowing in, there will be a junior cohort that starts working it's way in to MCO. Last big new hire wave, we eventually had guys hold it in their first month.
Upgrade is always and forever going to be long in Orlando. There will always be older captains moving to that area as long as taxes are low and the weather is nice. There just isn't much movement off the top and so it gets really stagnant, especially on the captain side.
MCO is perennially senior. Once the new hires really start flowing in, there will be a junior cohort that starts working it's way in to MCO. Last big new hire wave, we eventually had guys hold it in their first month.
Upgrade is always and forever going to be long in Orlando. There will always be older captains moving to that area as long as taxes are low and the weather is nice. There just isn't much movement off the top and so it gets really stagnant, especially on the captain side.
Yes, SFB based. I figured that would be the case with upgrade. Upgrade in sfb is basically never going to happen. The base has been shrinking and doesn't show any signs of it growing again. Our pilot group is fairly young so SFB as a whole is stagnant and the captain side is very stagnant. 50% on the CA side is 15 years currently and there's virtually zero movement.
It seems whether at G4 or WN, being based in orlando is going to be slow moment so just weighing the options to see which will afford better pay and qol. WN has the pay, but G4 qol is pretty good aside from only ever getting tues, wed, and sat off. Just not really sure if going back to overnighting is worth it.
