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I think what he was trying to say was that, for example, if on December 13, 2007 you had already reached your 59th birthday, your new retirement age is 61. If you were 58 on that date, your new retirement age is now 62. So on and so forth until age 55 and younger on that date have a new retirement age of 65. This way it would have gradually introduced the retirement age instead of all at once.
Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing
(Post 2869877)
So if I were 59.9 and they changed it to 61 I would be saved. The next year I would be 60.9 and they upped it to 62 and I would be saved. An so on and so on. What am I missing here?
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Originally Posted by gipple
(Post 2870122)
Is age discrimination also in play for those younger than 23 to hold an ATP? It’s always been about fairness, right?
You missed the point by a mile. Someone who paid into FICA and Medicare (and most likely much more than most) lost a large amount of benefits with the age 60 rule unless they chose to wait until 65 or find a new job. That's the point. |
Originally Posted by Flight Deck Ape
(Post 2870126)
I think what he was trying to say was that, for example, if on December 13, 2007 you had already reached your 59th birthday, your new retirement age is 61. If you were 58 on that date, your new retirement age is now 62. So on and so forth until age 55 and younger on that date have a new retirement age of 65. This way it would have gradually introduced the retirement age instead of all at once.
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Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing
(Post 2870128)
Are you losing any entitlements prior to the age of 23? Can you drive a car under age 16 (in most states) or be a bar tender under age 21?
You missed the point by a mile. Someone who paid into FICA and Medicare (and most likely much more than most) lost a large amount of benefits with the age 60 rule unless they chose to wait until 65 or find a new job. That's the point. PS My target of walking at 60 is still on pace. |
Originally Posted by gipple
(Post 2870257)
Did you not know the mandated retirement age for a FAA ATP was 60 when you started your career? If you didn’t prep for that, that’s on you. That BS 65 change came on the backs of those who had yet to upgrade. Playing the age discrimination violin was pure self centered greed. Again, you gummers pretended it was about upper age discrimination and were oblivious to the fact that some young studs couldn’t get an ATP because they hadn’t reached 23. Not being able to get an ATP until 23 most definitely obstructed some careers. I want an industry of professionals that strives to LOWER the mandatory retirement age by paying better wages earlier so that there are some viable years left when we set the brake for the last time. 67+ will guarantee you step out of the cockpit into a casket.
PS My target of walking at 60 is still on pace. |
Originally Posted by gipple
(Post 2870257)
My target of walking at 60 is still on pace.
You just won't be able to give up that $25K a month for working your senior 10 day a month line. GMAFB. |
Originally Posted by gipple
(Post 2870257)
Did you not know the mandated retirement age for a FAA ATP was 60 when you started your career? If you didn’t prep for that, that’s on you.
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From SouthwestAirCommunity.com
Quick question about the corporate route. I went to each of the parters' websites and noticed that they all require at least 1,500 hours to apply, SwiftAir requires 2,500. Southwest's FO minimum is 2,500 hours, and from the literature if I'm understanding correctly at that point if you are in the Destination 225 pathway you are able to fill an open position at Southwest once you get to 2,500 hours (assuming you pass the interview). My question is, if you are going through Destination 225 do you still have to get to 1,500 hours before flying for XOJet or Jetlinx, or as a Destination 225 cadet are you able to start flying for one of the three partners as soon as you complete the education? Each pathway is different here, too. However, individuals who go through our Cadet pathway will have intense training that will allow them to apply to our corporate partners prior to the 1,500 hour mark. We are really excited about working with all of our partners and about the quality experience our students will get. |
How many would welcome scrapping the age limitation in the interest of "fairness" but accepting that the new Class 1 medical goes quite a bit more in-depth?
By "more in-depth", I mean getting blood & urine screening to test liver function, renal function, blood glucose, HIV and drug screening, heart & artery checks, ECG both stationary and after running, EEG (yep... check your brain), X-rays of the chest and pulmonary areas, and finally an MRI and MRA. |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2870652)
How many would welcome scrapping the age limitation in the interest of "fairness" but accepting that the new Class 1 medical goes quite a bit more in-depth?
By "more in-depth", I mean getting blood & urine screening to test liver function, renal function, blood glucose, HIV and drug screening, heart & artery checks, ECG both stationary and after running, EEG (yep... check your brain), X-rays of the chest and pulmonary areas, and finally an MRI and MRA. |
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