“Do the Destination 225° pathways guarantee a job at Southwest Airlines?

While a job at Southwest Airlines is not guaranteed, Destination 225° was created to equip participants with the skills needed to start their career as a Southwest First Officer and is designed to build a pipeline of talented Pilots for Southwest. Neither acceptance into nor successfully completing the program guarantees employment or re-employment at Southwest Airlines.”

So, you pay for the training, and take your chances.

https://www.southwestaircommunity.co...225/ba-p/94123

I am sure they are not going to guarantee anything, although a guaranteed interview would be at least a reasonable thing to add. Of course you're taking your chances, but you're taking your chances getting into this industry in any case.

This sounds suspiciously like the FlightSafety pay to play program of the mid 1990s. [emoji21]


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So....

Wonder how this all plays out when the FAA increases the retirement age to 67.... its coming! Don't know when, but it's coming.....

Kap

If history's an indicator, they'll wait until the industry/profession is in the midst of an absolute meltdown, and then just as it starts to recover, they'll change the rules to make the retirement age 70. That way the effect will have the most impact possible. In fact , if history stays consistent, they won't stagger the change either....they'll just provide a few 64.9yr olds an enormous gift.

ABSO-FRIGGAN-LUTELY!! The single biggest ALPA failure in the organization’s history — which is saying a LOT considering this is a union that scoped out trans continental jets!!

Thousands of pilots furloughs extended for YEARS with the snap of a finger. No graduated change.

You said it better than I ever could. And THAT is why I’ll never support 67/70. They’ve already stolen years of my career and god only knows how much in lifetime earnings.


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I guess you’ll just ignore the fact that it was pure age discrimination and had been fought in the courts for decades. So you’re saying that the law should have been geared to the economy or your personal situation?

So 67/70 wouldn’t be age discrimination? Ours isn’t the only profession with an age limit (military, atc, many social services departments) Are they discriminating?

The reason for age 65 was economic. The majors filed bankruptcy and robbed pilots’ pensions to fund golden parachutes. Age 65 allowed pilots close to retirement 5 extra years to recoup those losses.

Airlines now want age 67 or higher as a temporary stop-gap measure to ease the pilot shortage they created when they destroyed our profession, created c-scale wages with regional carriers, and slowed our upward progression. Senior pilots nowadays aren’t in the same financial situation as then and should have the means to retire. Raising the retirement age again would deter even more prospective airline pilots and alienate current junior pilots, just like it did last time.

Who the hell wants to fly past 65?!

Who the hell wants to fly with them either? Dudes with their belts hiked up above there belly button wondering why the 25 yr old FA isn't interested in seeing his droopy bits. Now imagine them five years older and still refusing to use vnav. It's not every one else's problem you have have 3 ex-wives and no retirement.